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Post by IMMORTALS on Jun 1, 2019 13:59:54 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm certain it's Drago but after that I've no clue. I'd say Kuroi or Mongo, likely Kuroi. I'm not getting a strong read from one or the other however, so it'd might be a coin flip vote. Are we sure there is more than one mafia?
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Post by Bobby Barratt on Jun 1, 2019 15:02:47 GMT -5
We have failed to kill any yet. Minimum 2 I believe from the setups caff sent.
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Post by Drago on Jun 1, 2019 18:18:36 GMT -5
You all choose wrong and will get the destiny you deserve
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Post by Bobby Barratt on Jun 1, 2019 18:30:48 GMT -5
I didnt pick at all yet, but with enough on you regardless of what I choose, the pressure is on you to change their minds.
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Jun 1, 2019 18:33:08 GMT -5
You all choose wrong and will get the destiny you deserve Says the one who railroaded us to Steele and said she’d vote for herself if she was wrong :discordthinkingemoticon:
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Jun 1, 2019 19:47:25 GMT -5
Let's take a look at this logically though. Drago is almost certainly getting hanged by us.
That'll leave what, Bobby, Kuroi, Me, and Hype?
Ok, so during the night say the mafia lynches me or Hype. That leaves Bobby vs Kuroi because you know they're gonna vote against each other (assuming that Drago is one of the mafia and they aren't in cahoots) and the last person will have to make a real hard decision that'll decide the game.
The time for speculation is quickly disappearing. So I'd like to hear Bobby and Kuroi's pitches for why they are innocent/why the other one is full of crap. Because smart money has the survivor of me and Hype getting to choose between the two of you.
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Post by Bobby Barratt on Jun 2, 2019 1:56:38 GMT -5
I'll be honest I'm predicting that if Drago is mafia, I'll be night killed tonight.
Heres my thing though. If Steele being killed wasnt just terrible choices, the Drago sacrificing herself in order to get Steele killed wasnt a play I'd expect her to make being new. There had to be some experience guiding her along and supporting her plan in order to make sure it gets done and followed through. Ask yourself, who is the most experienced player here to know we would fall for a strategy like that?
It's futile at this point since I feel no one is going to switch their vote.
VOTE: KUROI
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Jun 2, 2019 2:14:04 GMT -5
I'll be honest I'm predicting that if Drago is mafia, I'll be night killed tonight. Heres my thing though. If Steele being killed wasnt just terrible choices, the Drago sacrificing herself in order to get Steele killed wasnt a play I'd expect her to make being new. There had to be some experience guiding her along and supporting her plan in order to make sure it gets done and followed through. Ask yourself, who is the most experienced player here to know we would fall for a strategy like that? I think that made more sense in your head than it did coming out. "Drago sacrificing herself is too experienced of a move for her, but do you know who is experienced? Kuroi." That's about what you said there which is pretty much nonsensical. 1. Sacrificing yourself is a loss unless there's a special character for it (which there isn't this time as far as we know). 2. Even if she was manipulated and isn't mafia then what would Kuroi have to do with it? Drago went all in out of nowhere and Kuroi was busy pointing the finger at you (which he's done pretty much continually). Now if you're trying to say "Kuroi and Drago are mafia and Kuroi manipulated Drago into stupidly sacrificing herself to cover himself" that I could maybe see... ....except for one thing. Drago is going down pointing the finger at you; you'd think she'd sort of want a little bit of revenge if her partner Kuroi (theoretically) were throwing her under the bus, wouldn't you?
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Post by Bobby Barratt on Jun 2, 2019 2:25:01 GMT -5
No that's the thing. It's not about being the winning individual, it's about either being town or mafia. My working theory is that kuroi is also mafia. This would mean that at this stage of the game, they can afford to lose one person in order to root out another.
So since we are at this point where if town mislynch again, we lose, mafia can throw one person under the bus in order to gain more information.
Maybe I'm swinging wildly here, either way I'm trying to give some sort of discussion to what seems like a dead day in order to find more time to gather info for tomorrow....if we make it that far.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Jun 2, 2019 8:46:28 GMT -5
I think the only basis on me being mafia is that I've been talking a lot. I've explained my reasoning for that. You and Drago are mafia and I see little reason to change that line of thought.
Now if you really aren't mafia, I'll reevaluate you after tomorrow, but Drago's scum. She'll die, then one of us (most likely me) will die tomorrow, leaving us back in lylo (meaning lynch or lose).
So Bobby/Mongo/Hype. One of 'em's scum.
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Post by Bobby Barratt on Jun 2, 2019 9:17:11 GMT -5
See that's the issue. I'm only marginally leaning your way for scum. Mongo and hype are closely behind. I've tried what I can to change your mind on me, that's a lost cause and you'll only see when I die/the game ends.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Jun 2, 2019 9:21:29 GMT -5
If you're only marginally leaning my way, why is your vote on me and not on Drago? Do you think I'm scummier than she is?
And you can't say I'm not able to change my mind. I had you as scummiest yesterday, but I'm voting Drago now. Obviously, things have changed.
I don't like how you're changing the narrative here.
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Post by Bobby Barratt on Jun 2, 2019 9:29:25 GMT -5
That's fair. I said above though that enough people were set on Drago that the lynch was practically inevitable anyway. No one spoke for a day or so. My vote was to try to open up discussion for beyond today. Allow us to explore our options and make use of the extra time this allows, should the game continue. My vote would have been wasted on Drago.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Jun 2, 2019 9:32:15 GMT -5
I'm glad you're bringing up discussion. Honestly, between my math class and Clash of the Icons, I completely forgot about this game.
I also think this day should be over with. I've always played a game where day ended with the majority vote and not deadline.
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Post by Drago on Jun 2, 2019 10:37:23 GMT -5
If you're assuming I'm mafia and making calculations, they are bad assumption and bad calculations. I noticed a trend. I saw a trend of people who were disappearing and I noticed that Steele as a medic was acting completely different than Steele as whatever his role was. I made a strong guess and I guessed wrong.
I still feel like Bobby is mafia. Maybe Kuroi, because this is my second game over, so I don't know what experience you're talking about. I also don't know enough about Mongo or Hype to make such assumptions. I feel like Hype's had it out for me for a while but that's more of a personality flaw than a strategy.
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