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Post by ForeverKuroi on May 21, 2019 22:20:47 GMT -5
Vote: Bobby
Mavs play and non compliance reads town. I'm not liking Bobby's response.
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on May 21, 2019 22:24:22 GMT -5
I feel like the way Mongo and I play is pretty similar. And it's not a good play early in the game I now see. While jumping into the late game last time let me see everything and logic everything out Mongo and I both pretty much would play this the EXACT same way mafia or town. I don't know how I would change up how I play early on. Of course I don't even know if the mafia can speak to each other outside the game forum which I guess would make the game different. But yeah early on this super critical analyzing type of play accounting for all options puts a huge lynch target on you. And ... now that I think about it late game would make you a big target for the mafia since they don't want people convincing people. Just an observation I found amusing.
I didn't even realize Hype was playing ... if I recall didn't he say that it would be a terrible mafia strat to just sit aside and say nothing? Overthinking time! WHAT IF he is being quiet just to trick us into thinking he couldn't be mafia since we established last game that silence is a pathetic mafia strategy?
Here's the thing ... the way Mav has played in this first day he has pretty much put a target on himself both for us to lynch because he sure as hell is ACTING guilty. But also for the mafia over night since if he IS the doctor or cop they would want him dead and now he is pretty much a kill the mafia could make without arousing suspicion (also Mongo because he's Mongo and nobody would blame them I suppose).
Ok so ... Mongo made a Mongo move that as someone who has worked with Mongo would know Mongo was going to make by making a jab at Caff. It would be odd if he didn't. I jumped on him because ... he jobbed me out to 8 duded ... at once ... for no reason ... and as he said ... I will ALWAYS vote mongo first, it's what I do. Bobby put a vote on the board to match mine because fuck Mongo and he was gonna be away. Kuroi put a vote on me because I refuse to get discord because I know my OCD to read EVERY damn post will mean I NEVER stop reading. I have a LIFE dude. Also you're married, I'm not a playa playa holla holla.
The REAL stuff started for my mind when Steele jumped in. The "obviously others share my suspicions" line is a cute way of telling everyone "HEY THIS is the dude we all want to hang right? You ALL agree with me" and he never really backed off or thought about anyone else once the real posts started flying in. And with Mav being the poster boy of acting suspicious *whatcha gonna do? Act a fool...* it's odd that he just kept piling on Mongo ...
Put simply I have my suspicions now of who might be mafia but I will not say anything here. I am too worried about Mav actually being a townie special powered to throw the vote there since he also is just ... goddamned erratic. So for now... since I work tomorrow and may not have time to think before 6PM deadline I want a vote on the board.
VOTE: POWER STEELE!
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on May 21, 2019 22:31:36 GMT -5
ALso for the record Mav: "If I'm a liar I should tell the truth" ... the next statement after that is 99 times out of 100 a lie. "I'm not saying my role for reasons that will have me dead" after claiming town and saying it was the truth ... just ... REALLY cries out mafia. After all if you claimed mafia you'd be dead. Only reason I even think you MIGHT be telling the truth is about being a townie (and maybe a cop/doctor) is because since we KNOW there is no jester and we KNOW what roles you can have it would be BEYOND stupid to say these lines and be mafia. And frankly you don't strike me as stupid. Yet. Hence the reprieve for now. There is just enough evidence of truth to worry me.
Ok I need sleep now I talk too much. Night all.
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on May 21, 2019 22:43:55 GMT -5
Ok so ... Mongo made a Mongo move that as someone who has worked with Mongo would know Mongo was going to make by making a jab at Caff. It would be odd if he didn't. I jumped on him because ... he jobbed me out to 8 duded ... at once ... for no reason ONE TIME, DT, ONE TIME Lol, I love you man
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Post by IMMORTALS on May 21, 2019 22:49:35 GMT -5
I haven't replied yet cos I don't spend all my time on here. Jeez Mongo!
After looking over all the votes, and all the knee-jerk reactions my suspicions are on Mongo and Mav.
Mongo has gone on the aggressive super hard, which a normal person wouldn't do. I think the blame game got to him a lot too, with he getting wilder in his accusations.
Mav has started to dig himself a nice little hole of paranoia right now too, I'm thinking he spoke up too soon and now is retreating, or else that's his plan. Hide in plain sight. Then again he came out and said he's a Townie or whatever and I know there's more than one of those...so he could be right.
It's not even lynch o clock and this is already one spicy dish!...but I vote...
Vote: MONGO
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Post by Steele on May 22, 2019 1:28:31 GMT -5
The REAL stuff started for my mind when Steele jumped in. The "obviously others share my suspicions" line is a cute way of telling everyone "HEY THIS is the dude we all want to hang right? You ALL agree with me" and he never really backed off or thought about anyone else once the real posts started flying in. In my defence, I haven’t backed off or changed my thoughts cos I’ve been asleep. I dunno if that’s a Mafia indicator or not, I guess they sleep so probably? Mongo passed the religion check I guess, if he was a Roman catholic I may have doubled down on him but... Alright so joking aside... I agree with the general concensus, Maverick looks shifty as fuck but even though he DID turn out to be guilty last game, I think that’s just how he rolls. Bobby has been quiet too, though since he’s also from the UK I guess I gotta give him the benefit of the doubt there lol. Though he was the first one on the Mongo train along with DT... Maybe you two guys set up a trap for idiots like me (and Mav) to wander into, then you turn round and go “oh all these people voting for the lols it must be YOU Steele! (And keeping an eye on you too Mav!)” Shit what if it’s DT and Mongo? Power Admin Mafia. So where is the Mafia chat that Mav screenshotted his “I’m fucked” post from last time? Is it on a board on the forums? You guys are all-powerful admins so you should go and cheat and see who’s talking there lol! I could try to over-analyse everyone in this game but it’s the first turn. That shit up above is just clutching at the obvious straws. I haven’t even gone into Dread, Drago, Kuroi or Hype (it’s actually fucking Hype this time isn’t it?) I’d be very surprised if we managed to correctly profile a mafioso this time round. Kuroi. If you’re lurking because you’re TRULY at Universal you’ll have no problem providing evidence, post a Viper promo challenging everybody around you to an impromptu match I’ve got time to come back and cast my final vote before I go to bed tonight so for now... Vote: UNVOTE
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Post by Bobby Barratt on May 22, 2019 2:30:40 GMT -5
I'll be honest, the initial Mongo vote was to keep the thread marked and for the VOTEMONGOLOL vote...Then he presented some good points, but my eye is still on him for the power defence. Mav, however is doing nothing to convince me he is trustworthy. He seems to be trying to be all unpredictable by saying he's town, then he isn't, then he might be... Let's not forget his power. As said above, if he does have a power, is he sentencing himself to death for it?
Until Mav does something to make me trust him somewhat, then he probably isn't going to get my vote off him. After all, isn't the idea for us all to convince everyone else that we're town?
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Post by Steele on May 22, 2019 3:07:31 GMT -5
I'll be honest, the initial Mongo vote was to keep the thread marked and for the VOTEMONGOLOL vote...Then he presented some good points, but my eye is still on him for the power defence. Mav, however is doing nothing to convince me he is trustworthy. He seems to be trying to be all unpredictable by saying he's town, then he isn't, then he might be... Let's not forget his power. As said above, if he does have a power, is he sentencing himself to death for it? Until Mav does something to make me trust him somewhat, then he probably isn't going to get my vote off him. After all, isn't the idea for us all to convince everyone else that we're town? Yeah I’ve still got half an eye on Mongo, but then again I’ve got half an eye on everyone. The Mongo vote train was a bit of a half-joke but at the same time, the way he voted was a little suspect to me. Sure, SOMEBODY has to be the first to vote, and getting a vote in early means you negate accusations of lurking. Voting for the Mod Looks like it could be a ploy to get a vote out there without turning any specific player (and any allies they may have from outside the game) against you. It IS a weak accusation, I admit that - and it’s partly why I unvoted for now,but it’s EXACTLY what Mav did in the last game. Maverick himself - who the fuck knows. Can’t quite tell if he’s flailing in an attempt to put us off the idea of him being Mafia, or if this is just his play style so you doubt yourself so much you don’t dare vote for him in case he’s telling the truth.
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Post by Bobby Barratt on May 22, 2019 3:31:22 GMT -5
I'll be honest, the initial Mongo vote was to keep the thread marked and for the VOTEMONGOLOL vote...Then he presented some good points, but my eye is still on him for the power defence. Mav, however is doing nothing to convince me he is trustworthy. He seems to be trying to be all unpredictable by saying he's town, then he isn't, then he might be... Let's not forget his power. As said above, if he does have a power, is he sentencing himself to death for it? Until Mav does something to make me trust him somewhat, then he probably isn't going to get my vote off him. After all, isn't the idea for us all to convince everyone else that we're town? Yeah I’ve still got half an eye on Mongo, but then again I’ve got half an eye on everyone. The Mongo vote train was a bit of a half-joke but at the same time, the way he voted was a little suspect to me. Sure, SOMEBODY has to be the first to vote, and getting a vote in early means you negate accusations of lurking. Voting for the Mod Looks like it could be a ploy to get a vote out there without turning any specific player (and any allies they may have from outside the game) against you. It IS a weak accusation, I admit that - and it’s partly why I unvoted for now,but it’s EXACTLY what Mav did in the last game. Maverick himself - who the fuck knows. Can’t quite tell if he’s flailing in an attempt to put us off the idea of him being Mafia, or if this is just his play style so you doubt yourself so much you don’t dare vote for him in case he’s telling the truth. Yeah I agree with this 100%. I just think that at this stage, where it's all random and we don't have a lot to go on, the strategy of making people distrust you as much as they can within about 3 posts isn't going to win Mav any followers at this point.
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Post by Steele on May 22, 2019 4:13:08 GMT -5
Lol right? But as shifty as it makes him look, you also wonder whether he’s trying to make himself look TOO guilty so that other towns (assuming he is one too) think “he can’t possibly be Mafia, no Mafioso would be THAT blatant” But then THAT makes you think “but if he IS Mafia, then that’s exactly what he’d WANT us to think!” And then you start thinking... and re-thinking... And then you end up here...
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Post by Bobby Barratt on May 22, 2019 4:23:55 GMT -5
You've played before then? Haha. I'm still working this game out tbf. It's definitely cause for concern, but by hesitating on it, we are definitely playing into his hand. Until other guys start coming into the thread and giving us some idea of what their game plans are, he just stands out.
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Post by Steele on May 22, 2019 4:41:11 GMT -5
I’ve only played the one game before, but I love me a good wiki site lol. It’s the same one Seth linked for game 1 so people could see information about their roles, I’ve been reading random bits about strategy and theory but to be honest unless it’s simple strategy it goes over my head lol.
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Post by Mav. on May 22, 2019 4:43:52 GMT -5
Lol right? But as shifty as it makes him look, you also wonder whether he’s trying to make himself look TOO guilty so that other towns (assuming he is one too) think “he can’t possibly be Mafia, no Mafioso would be THAT blatant” But then THAT makes you think “but if he IS Mafia, then that’s exactly what he’d WANT us to think!” And then you start thinking... and re-thinking... And then you end up here...You do realize that Hype claimed a role he didn’t have last game, go caught rotten. Who’s to say I’m doing the same? Maybe I am the mafia, maybe I am not. Maybe this is all a mind game? Maybe it isn’t. But if you do want to vote me, then vote me. I’m sure you’ll kick yourself... or maybe you’ll be so happy that you did.
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Post by Bobby Barratt on May 22, 2019 4:47:41 GMT -5
I’ve only played the one game before, but I love me a good wiki site lol. It’s the same one Seth linked for game 1 so people could see information about their roles, I’ve been reading random bits about strategy and theory but to be honest unless it’s simple strategy it goes over my head lol. Yeah I played the games here and then went to the site Caff linked. I was so, so lost and trying to keep up with what was going on while working. Got lynched in day one lol.
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on May 22, 2019 7:37:40 GMT -5
Alright, I'm probably gonna head to bed soon and it's in my best interest (and I hope yours) that I survive another day (assuming I'm not killed by the mafia).
To that end I'll vote Mav
He's shifty and known for being duplicitous- and more selfishly, voting for him offsets the votes against me. If you guys figure out somebody else before deadline or realize that Mav is probably clean, then make sure to quickly swing your votes to a more guilty party to override my vote.
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