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Post by Adrien on Dec 16, 2021 0:25:50 GMT -5
Since the last vote count: Scorps votes Dunne Reck votes Mongo Kuroi switches his vote from Hype to Donzig in a fashion that makes me want to mod kill him.
Vote count: Mongo - 2 (Bobby, Reck) Kuroi - 2 (Hype, Steve A) Donzig - 1 (Kuroi)
With 14 alive, it takes EIGHT votes to eliminate or to end the day phase early. Deadline is a little over 45 hours.
Player list: 1. Kris/Eli Dresden 2. Scorps/Venom 3. Donzig 4. Mongo 5. Bailey/Cross 6. Nausicaa 7. Dunne 8. Steve Awesome 9. Hype 10. Robbie 11. Kuroi 12. Reck 13. Mosler 14. Bobby No. Im on mobile. Just vote for Donzig. Chop chop. Don't make me tell you twice. Fine. But I'm not happy about it. Also, I will prod people who haven't posted when we hit the 24 hours to go, since that will mean they didn't post in a 48 hour span.
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Post by Bobby Barratt on Dec 16, 2021 2:06:48 GMT -5
Getting a strange read from Reck there. It feels like an almost humble town post, but it seems weird having an ability that's a net loss for town. Not ready to vote on him because it's entirely possible (and probably more likely) he's telling the truth, just wanted to see if anyone else felt that too?
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Dec 16, 2021 2:09:29 GMT -5
What are you guys like, some kind of scum buddies hoping to innocently get me out “randomly” while quietly throwing shad at each other?
Er, I mean, HOARG! WHEN YOU COME INTO MY ROOM YOU BETTER BE READY TO FIGHT!
*Flexes*
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Dec 16, 2021 2:58:28 GMT -5
Hm! Reck is making some wild claims, yet Venom is also very sus. Explain how my claim is "wild".
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Dec 16, 2021 3:00:03 GMT -5
Getting a strange read from Reck there. It feels like an almost humble town post, but it seems weird having an ability that's a net loss for town. Not ready to vote on him because it's entirely possible (and probably more likely) he's telling the truth, just wanted to see if anyone else felt that too? Bobby, let me ask you: Imagine I'm town and you know this 100%. Explain to me the reason that I make that post as town, just like, hypothetically. Now do the same, but imagine you 100% know I'm scum and have a guilty on me. Explain to me the reasons that scum-me would make that post. I'm not trying to trap you or "GOTCHA" here, I'm just trying to understand your thought process.
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Post by Cross Recoba on Dec 16, 2021 3:05:46 GMT -5
Hm! Reck is making some wild claims, yet Venom is also very sus. Explain how my claim is "wild". Explain how it’s not wild then?
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Post by Robbie A on Dec 16, 2021 3:46:33 GMT -5
Reck, issue for me is you’ve been quick to claim Miller or whatever similar last few games I’ve played with you, and this time you’ve said that your power is net negative for town but you won’t use it. To me that makes you null as hell right now because you could equally be using the goodwill built up to make a strong scum play, or you could equally just be trying to play town.
I get why others would see it sus though.
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Post by IMMORTALS on Dec 16, 2021 4:11:04 GMT -5
VOTE: MongoHe knows why. Also I think my role is a net negative for town if I'm reading it right, so I will likely not be using any actions this game! Mysterious partial claim! Is it true? WHO KNOWS! I find it hard that someone who is a pro at these games wouldn't understand their role. I also find it hard to believe someone with your experience would fuck up by outing yourself. I would like to know more about what this role is however. Not fishing, but you have peaked my curiosity. I don't think I know any non-effective/ useless roles.
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Post by The Dunne Deal on Dec 16, 2021 4:18:55 GMT -5
I'm here, sorry about not being super active right away, work is a pain.
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Post by Donzig on Dec 16, 2021 10:41:50 GMT -5
Why would Reck tell us he is town but his ability is a net negative for the town? Like Hype said, that just seems very sus. Either he really is town, or he is scum buying time. But he if he was scum why would he say his power is a negative?
Why is he after Mongo so hard? What does he know?
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Dec 16, 2021 12:22:24 GMT -5
Explain how my claim is "wild". Explain how it’s not wild then? That's like asking me to disprove God, burden's not on me to prove a negative.
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Dec 16, 2021 12:28:16 GMT -5
Reck, issue for me is you’ve been quick to claim Miller or whatever similar last few games I’ve played with you, and this time you’ve said that your power is net negative for town but you won’t use it. To me that makes you null as hell right now because you could equally be using the goodwill built up to make a strong scum play, or you could equally just be trying to play town. I get why others would see it sus though. By last few games do you just mean one? Because I'm struggling to recall any other times I've claimed a negative utility role like that. VOTE: MongoHe knows why. Also I think my role is a net negative for town if I'm reading it right, so I will likely not be using any actions this game! Mysterious partial claim! Is it true? WHO KNOWS! I find it hard that someone who is a pro at these games wouldn't understand their role. I also find it hard to believe someone with your experience would fuck up by outing yourself. I would like to know more about what this role is however. Not fishing, but you have peaked my curiosity. I don't think I know any non-effective/ useless roles. Ooooh, that's actually the best point brought up against me so far. Well done -- someone as experienced as me shouldn't have a problem understanding their role, this is true. The long and short of it is that when I looked at my PM, I thought it did one thing (based on my experience playing mafia for like 15 years). Then when I re-read it, I realized the role didn't do what I thought it did, because the definition/ability of this role has changed over the years and I haven't been actively playing mafia for several years. I don't see how giving more information on my role is useful right now. Thinking about all the possibilities from your perspective: - I'm town, and I'm telling the truth that my role is negative utility, in which case, we shouldn't push this further and just believe what I'm saying.
- I'm town, and I'm lying about my role's utility, in which case, I'm still town and must have a reason to be doing so (like, say, keep scum off my back), so we shouldn't push this further.
- I'm scum, and I'm lying about my role's utility, in which case, sure, fire away, push me to the brink of death.
There's very little reason for me, as scum, to open up the day drawing this much attention to myself. Or maybe that's just a tall glass of WIFOM.
But unless I'm at E-1, I'm not gonna claim. Hell, I may not claim even if I'm one vote away from hammer.
Why would Reck tell us he is town but his ability is a net negative for the town? Like Hype said, that just seems very sus. Either he really is town, or he is scum buying time. But he if he was scum why would he say his power is a negative? Why is he after Mongo so hard? What does he know? Define being "so hard" after Mongo? You mean from one RVS vote and then never mentioning him again? Why are you overselling my commitment here?
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Post by Adrien on Dec 16, 2021 13:27:56 GMT -5
Since the last vote count: No change in votes
Vote count: Mongo - 2 (Bobby, Reck) Kuroi - 2 (Hype, Steve A) Donzig - 1 (Kuroi)
With 14 alive, it takes EIGHT votes to eliminate or to end the day phase early. Deadline is a little over 32 hours. Mosler is the only player not to have posted yet. 8 more hours and he'll get an official prod.
Player list: 1. Kris/Eli Dresden 2. Scorps/Venom 3. Donzig 4. Mongo 5. Bailey/Cross 6. Nausicaa 7. Dunne 8. Steve Awesome 9. Hype 10. Robbie 11. Kuroi 12. Reck 13. Mosler 14. Bobby
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Post by Robbie A on Dec 16, 2021 14:21:59 GMT -5
Reck, issue for me is you’ve been quick to claim Miller or whatever similar last few games I’ve played with you, and this time you’ve said that your power is net negative for town but you won’t use it. To me that makes you null as hell right now because you could equally be using the goodwill built up to make a strong scum play, or you could equally just be trying to play town. I get why others would see it sus though. By last few games do you just mean one? Because I'm struggling to recall any other times I've claimed a negative utility role like that. I find it hard that someone who is a pro at these games wouldn't understand their role. I also find it hard to believe someone with your experience would fuck up by outing yourself. I would like to know more about what this role is however. Not fishing, but you have peaked my curiosity. I don't think I know any non-effective/ useless roles. Ooooh, that's actually the best point brought up against me so far. Well done -- someone as experienced as me shouldn't have a problem understanding their role, this is true. The long and short of it is that when I looked at my PM, I thought it did one thing (based on my experience playing mafia for like 15 years). Then when I re-read it, I realized the role didn't do what I thought it did, because the definition/ability of this role has changed over the years and I haven't been actively playing mafia for several years. I don't see how giving more information on my role is useful right now. Thinking about all the possibilities from your perspective: - I'm town, and I'm telling the truth that my role is negative utility, in which case, we shouldn't push this further and just believe what I'm saying.
- I'm town, and I'm lying about my role's utility, in which case, I'm still town and must have a reason to be doing so (like, say, keep scum off my back), so we shouldn't push this further.
- I'm scum, and I'm lying about my role's utility, in which case, sure, fire away, push me to the brink of death.
There's very little reason for me, as scum, to open up the day drawing this much attention to myself. Or maybe that's just a tall glass of WIFOM.
But unless I'm at E-1, I'm not gonna claim. Hell, I may not claim even if I'm one vote away from hammer.
Why would Reck tell us he is town but his ability is a net negative for the town? Like Hype said, that just seems very sus. Either he really is town, or he is scum buying time. But he if he was scum why would he say his power is a negative? Why is he after Mongo so hard? What does he know? Define being "so hard" after Mongo? You mean from one RVS vote and then never mentioning him again? Why are you overselling my commitment here? I could swear you had Miller before, like six months ago before but equally I riddle myself with alcohol so fuck knows.
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Post by IMMORTALS on Dec 16, 2021 14:57:16 GMT -5
I could swear you had Miller before, like six months ago before but equally I riddle myself with alcohol so fuck knows. RIP our livers. Also, Vote: END DAY ONELet's just get this ball rolling.
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