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Post by IMMORTALS on Mar 27, 2022 16:21:49 GMT -5
Well played guys. I danced around the idea of Hype being scum a lot of the game, but it just never felt locked. Damnit I think this was one of my better scum games. I had a blast! Also sorry to Donzig, I had to kill someone to evolve, and sadly the master picked the student this time.
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Post by Venom 🕷 on Mar 27, 2022 19:18:11 GMT -5
Sure it did, at no point was I in the town graveyard with Dunne. My posse > your posse YOU ARE MY POSSE UGH
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Post by mosler on Mar 27, 2022 19:50:43 GMT -5
Sure it did, at no point was I in the town graveyard with Dunne. My posse > your posse YOU ARE MY POSSE UGH I know. I just don't advertise that I never vote for or kill you either. It starts becoming too obvious that I am completely ineffective except against Robbie.
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Post by Adrien on Mar 27, 2022 20:06:16 GMT -5
Day One: -Game start evolutions: Rat evolves from Eevee to Glaceon (Jailkeeper) and Donzig evolves from Eevee to Leafeon (Treeviver). Both are masons. -Mosler evolves from Piplup to Prinplup (gains Bunyip ability) by voting for three different players in one day phase -No elimination is reached
-Let me point out some things that people NAILED: -DT completely nailed that Glaceon and Leafeon are in the game -Hype correctly called Mongo an unjester -Mongo knew immediately that it was Mosler who evolved -DT immediately says in the scum chat that Mongo is Gible (which is his safe claim). My goal was to punish people who depended too much on hitting me with some metagaming. DT should know this since I made his fake claim a starter. -I had to make sure Mosler knew that his wording was “players” for his evo condition and voting for me didn’t count because I’m not a player. I feel like I gave him the easiest evolution to get early in the game. -To be fair to the Dunne wagon, he has the least useful evolved power, but could still come in handy as this no elimination happens. -Anyone with any ‘Mon knowledge should know who Kris is after a Bzzzt and mowing the lawn reference. -Bobby (Darkrai) is keeping a low profile early. He was given Manaphy as a safe claim. -Something to track for tomorrow, the only person to vote for Caffrey was Rat. Caffrey needs someone to vote for him in two different day phases to evolve. He called this impossible, which is ridiculous but whatever. I did word it where he could self-vote for the evolution.
Night One: -Bobby (Darkrai) decides to not commute or guess at Giratina -Rat (Glaceon) jailkeeps Hype (Shinx) -Kris (Rotom) chooses Caffrey (Chimchar) as her target, spinner lands on Rotom-Frost so Kris jailkeeps Caffrey -Mosler (Prinplup) bunyips Donzig (Leafeon), reported back with “Not Vanilla” -Bailey (Drifloon) kills Rat -Bailey evolves from Drifloon to Drifblim by performing a kill (gains 3x Ninja modifier) -Scorps evolves from Starly to Staravia by surviving to Day 2 (gains Watcher ability)
-Caffrey won’t be happy about his evolution ticket being killed immediately. Gonna take a little longer. -Kris’s spinner landing on frost means we have two players jailkept. This will be fun to see shake out. -Scum chat had to BEG Hype to be the one to kill Rat or Mongo. Hype kept yelling that Mongo was watching him (Mongo is an unjester and WANTS to die) and eventually, Bailey just does the kill instead. Did them a favor though since Hype was jailkept. -Also… I’m pretty sure I said half the town was vanilla. I actually broke down the odds for Mosler. Game started off with 13 players, 7 were vanilla (Scorps, Bailey, Hype, Caffrey, Dunne, Robbie, and Mosler himself). Mosler evolved, making it 6. So Mosler had a 50/50 shot hitting someone vanilla out of his 12 targets. I’m not understanding why Hype is so worried about watchers and trackers. Honestly, some of the non-vanillas (Mongo, Donzig) aren’t even doing things at night. As I said in my notes after this (I didn’t write all this in order), right result/wrong reason.
Day Two: -Donzig uses his “Treevive” on Rat Bastard, returning him to the game as a tree stump -Dunne narrowly survives with time running out at E-1
-Man, I am TEASING Rat. He could be Treevived so I can’t spoil the game. Since he was Donzig’s mason, he understands. Also, he thinks Caff is scum because he didn’t freeze him. This will be fun! -The two jailkeepings have become exactly what I could have hoped for. CHAOS!!! Everyone is assuming someone is lying. EVEN DT IN THE SCUM CHAT IS WONDERING WHY CAFF IS LYING!! It’s going over EVERYONE’S head that two people we jailkept. -If Hype ends up getting eliminated for this, it will be another one of those right result/wrong reason situations. I think people don’t acknowledge these in our little circle and just worry about the result. -DT is finally getting it! But I feel like no one is listening to him. I mean, he’s scum but he’s right. -Donzig uses his power like I was kinda expecting him to here. Surprised it took this long. -Something that might be dangerous? Hype and DT being so lock step against Caffrey. One flip could put eyes on them. -Kris is avoiding claiming. I can’t exactly blame her. -Caffrey can evolve in Day Three if Hype, Donzig, Robbie, Scorps, Bailey, or Mongo vote for him. -DT in the scum chat is speculating who the evolutions are. He correctly guessed that Kris actually froze Caffrey but he thinks it’s because of her evolving Day 1, which was actually Mosler. -Dunne is actually hurting scum despite Bailey thinking of Dunne as their last buddy. They’re trying to push Caff and even with Caff voting Dunne, he doesn’t want to do it. -DT still wants Dunne alive. The consideration for their NK before day is over is Donzig, Bobby, or Robbie. Bobby will survive a shot, whether he commutes or not. -I saw Robbie online right before deadline. Wondered if he would hammer despite his previous stance that Dunne isn’t really that scummy. DT said he would hammer but didn’t due to being tied up.
Night Two: -Bobby (Darkrai) commutes -Kris (Rotom) chooses Scorps (Staravia), spinner lands on Rotom-Wash, so Kris protects Scorps -Scorps watches Kris -Mosler (Prinplup) bunyips DT (Giratina), reporting back with not vanilla -Hype (Shinx) kills Donzig (Leafeon) -Hype evolves from Shinx to Luxio, gaining roleblocking power by performing a kill -Robbie evolves from Riolu to Lucario, gaining cop power by surviving to Day Three
-Mosler was on Dunne at first, who would have come up vanilla, and switched to DT. While this will get Mosler further from evolving, I wonder what his reaction will be to DT coming up not vanilla. This could catch Giratina. -Scorps and Kris both looked after each other. How sweet. -Mosler’s vanilla choices would have been Dunne, Caff, Robbie, Hype
Day Three: -Caffrey evolves from Chimchar to Monferno, gaining a gladiator ability after having two votes place on him by the same player in different day phases. -Caffrey gladiator challenges Robbie (Lucario) -Caffrey evolves from Monferno to Infernape, gaining a protector ability, by using his gladiator ability. -Caffrey is eliminated by vote -DT uses his fake evolution as an end of day action
-First things first, let’s have this as a day topper, Caffrey will evolve with a vote either placed by Hype, Donzig, Robbie, Scorps, Bailey, or Mongo. Scorps does this pretty quickly in the day phase. -DT has claimed he is vanilla. Mosler has a “not vanilla” result on DT but I think he missed it. -Oh Anthony… oh Anthony. Robbie was the WORST choice you could have made. Now there’s a gladiator fight between a doctor and a cop. Ohhhh man… -Anthony got really heated during this exchange. I recommended him to step away because I can totally empathize with him, especially since I know he’s town. Even if his reads were wrong. -Anthony: “Death Trap is [being] worse than Dunne” No, he’s just scum and screwing with the town. -Scum can’t decide who they want to vote out. The unknown of Robbie’s role almost made them vote him off but they decided that Caffrey sorta forced their hand. -MOSLER CAUGHT IT FINALLY!! DT is in trouble. I wonder if Bobby will use his ability on DT since he now knows. -Caff self-hammer isn’t surprising, honestly. He told me he wasn't having fun this round, and I hate that for him. -Something I noticed, some people are realizing a randomized JOAT is in the game, which is what Kris basically is.
Night Three: -Bobby (Darkrai) takes no action -Hype (Luxio) roleblocks Kris (Rotom) -Scorps (Staravia) watches Robbie (Lucario) -Robbie cop checks Mongo (Spiritomb) and gets GUILTY as a result. -Kris chooses Robbie, spinner lands on Rotom-Wash, so Kris protects Robbie (BLOCKED BY HYPE) -Mosler bunyips Bobby, reports back as not vanilla -DT (Giratina) kills Robbie (SEEN BY SCORPS) -Hype evolves from Luxio to Luxray, gaining a role cop modifier to his roleblocking, by roleblocking a player successfully. -Scorps evolves from Staravia to Staraptor, gaining a tracking power that he can elect to use instead of watching, by seeing something while watching.
-Basically, the only vanilla left in the game is Dunne. As of the evolutions that have happened in the last phases, Mosler cannot reach Empoleon, since Dunne will evolve when visited. -DT is making sure he is leaving instructions for the scum team as he will predictably die. -Scum basically had a choice with Hype’s roleblock (granted, they didn’t know this). Block Scorps, Robbie lives. Block Kris, Robbie dies and Scorps sees you do it. Now… had they used a ninja from Bailey and blocked Kris… -Bobby could have prevented the day phase coming up to hang DT by using his power but he declined to. I guess he wanted to make sure it was Giratina and not someone else.
Day Four: -DT (Giratina) is eliminated by vote
-This one is pretty cut and dry. Mosler caught DT in a vanilla related lie. Scorps saw DT kill Robbie. -Mongo sus’d himself a little bit by questioning a watcher say he saw a kill. -God bless DT, he just gave up. -This whole day phase took place when I was sleeping. Just wanna make note of that. -I went ahead and changed Darkrai from blue to green. With no more cop and no more Giratina, I’m gonna go ahead and just make Darkrai a regular commuter for the remainder of the game.
Night Four: -Bobby (Darkrai) declines to commute -Hype (Luxray) roleblock/rolecops Kris (Rotom), finds out she is a randomized Jack of all Trades -Mosler (Prinplup) bunyips Dunne (Bidoof), protecting him from attacks and is reported back that Dunne is vanilla -Scorps (Staraptor) watches Dunne, sees Mosler visit -Bailey (Drifblim) uses his ninja modifier to kill Scorps -Dunne evolves from Bidoof to Bibarel, gaining a friendly neighbor ability, by being visited
-Mosler finally finds a vanilla!! But since his visit triggered an evolution, he won’t be able to bunyip anyone anymore. I’m afraid of what kind of response I’ll get from Mosler the next night phase. -Other than that, not much else to report. Scorps knew he was dying the moment the phase started.
Day Five: -Mongo is eliminated by vote
-This is the nitty-gritty right here. No one has any night action data to implicate anyone. This comes down to true scumhunting and puzzle-piece logic. Honestly, with this much data on what all has occurred, this is one of my favorite times of the game as town. I expect this to be my longest day phase notes section since so much has to be figured out by the town and scum. -Third-party speculation has begun. Mongo is probably grinning as that takes place. -I informed scum that I will end the game with two more dead townies if they both survive it. I made sure Mongo was aware of this as well. As much as it would suck for Mongo, two town versus two scum versus one third-party… I dunno what other way to call it. -What on earth is Rat going on about water types… oh he meant WATCHER TYPES!! -Dunne reveals that there’s an elephant in the room… and this POOFS!! -Mosler made a point that Scorps could have kept his info to himself to not out himself, but it did give DT literally no wiggle room. -Dunne… dude… CAFFREY WAS CHIMCHAR!! -Mongo figured out who Kris is. Hahaha! -The moment Hype revealed himself as a rolecop, I would have started voting for him. His species didn’t help Mongo’s theory about him also roleblocking. -People speculating Dunne’s evolution is funny to me because they want it to be some sort of “surviving this long” thing and not a “someone had to visit him and no one bothered until now”. -Mongo solved Hype’s role! -So why is the wash form a protection power? Well, I’ve previously used Water Pokémon has rolestoppers and doctor roles before. There is the water move, Life Dew, as well. I personally just imagined someone pounding on a door to kill a target, door swings open and suddenly Hydro Pump sends them all the way back home. Without harming them, of course! In case anyone else is curious, Heat kills because… well, fire. That one is probably self-explanatory. Base form being an electric/ghost, I figure roleblocking fit that best. Frost is an easy one. Fan is because I tended to give flying-types the tracker power. As for Mow… that one was just me going “what’s left that I can give a JOAT?!” Hiding in the grass? I’m grasping at straws here. I thought about giving her a RotomDex form as a cop, but the idea came after the game started. -How are they not going after Hype?! -Seriously, he puts the second vote on Dunne because he sees an ending to the game! -Mosler putting in work. Someone needed to try to analyze the evolutions. -Also, I think Mosler hates me for his role. -Mongo identifies Dunne’s role as friendly neighbor. Good boy, Mongo! -Bobby outs himself as Darkrai. Only a matter of time. -Hype trying to twist Bobby into being scum or third-party is so jarring. HE IS SO CLEARLY GUILTY!! -Hype votes to end day early only a few hours from deadline. Lulz. -I’d like to think I’d have voted Hype out with all the mass confusion he’s spreading. -A no elimination is looking pretty likely as I write this with… 3 and a half hours remaining in the day phase. If town loses this game and someone complains about the set up, let me just say this: if town outright doesn’t vote someone out 3 out of 5 days of the game, they deserve to lose. And one of the two eliminations was a cop versus doctor gladiator battle. (MOOT AS THEY EVENTUALLY VOTED OUT MONGO) -Oh my… a late train on Mongo. Could the town find the Unjester?! -My oh my, I thought Kris was about to let Mongo go. Down goes the Unjester.
Night Five: -Bobby (Darkrai) does not commute -Mosler (Prinplup) instructed me to “bunyip myself” since he has no applicable targets -Hype (Luxray) roleblocks/rolecops Kris (Rotom), with this information already. -Dunne (Bibarel) friendly neighbors Hype -Kris choose Hype, spinner lands on Rotom-Heat, so Kris kills Hype (BLOCKED) -Bailey (Drifblim) kills Dunne
-As of this writing, minutes after Mongo’s flip, Kris chose Hype and it landed on Heat. If Kris isn’t roleblocked again, Kris will kill Hype. That could change EVERYTHING! -Bobby is staying put in case Hype checks him. Of course, he still has that bulletproof still leftover. -Pretty sure Mosler is annoyed. -Hype just saved himself. Though not sure about the Dunne kill. I would have taken out the biggest brain in the game, which is Mosler. But we shall see. Game enters ELo.
Day Six: -Kris is eliminated by vote.
-Kris after being roleblocked: “At least that means other people were able to hopefully use their night actions without interference.” I mean, Bobby is a commuter and Mosler’s role is now useless. -Hype is trying to use that Kris is the only one that’s been blocked as his way of dealing with her. He just needs to flip Bobby or Mosler. I feel like he tried a little too hard but I could be wrong. -Annnnnd game! I want to say that at no point in the game would Mosler fully evolved form of Empoleon caused any differences in what happened at night as Empoleon was simply going to be Bulletproof town. -Gible was originally going to evolve into a vigilante role. I also had Regigigas as a delayed double voter, meaning he couldn’t vote days 1-3 and then got double votes after that. One other role I had for scum had I needed a 4 person scum team: Glameow. Purugly was gonna be a redirector.
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Mar 27, 2022 21:51:27 GMT -5
Poor mosler. I was so happy he was the one who caught me. And I would have killed him too. Cuz I am not prone to his fits of not killing people lol. You lovely man you.
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Mar 27, 2022 23:22:05 GMT -5
Also I'll get my game up in the next day or two. I have it all planned out, just wanna give everyone a chance to recover from this and the start of rumble promo season.
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Post by Robbie A on Mar 28, 2022 2:09:21 GMT -5
-I saw Robbie online right before deadline. Wondered if he would hammer despite his previous stance that Dunne isn’t really that scummy. DT said he would hammer but didn’t due to being tied up.
Want to clarify this because if I leave the browser on the board on mobile and then don’t come off the page, quite often proboards things I never left. I was very much at skittles getting hammered.
Anyway, another good round of pokemafia! I had Hype on my radar after Mongo so it was a shame Kris got blocked. But at least there was some hope by catching DT out.
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Post by mosler on Mar 28, 2022 12:31:16 GMT -5
Poor mosler. I was so happy he was the one who caught me. And I would have killed him too. Cuz I am not prone to his fits of not killing people lol. You lovely man you. 🥺 And on Adrien's breakdown, I clued into what not-vanilla meant immediately, but based on the level of info at play thought it would be best to wait for DT to Go the following ppl are scum" before going "Yeah but" Could not have predicted how lynch horny the initial Caff train was... which was hella suspect on Kris & Bobby, and a key reason I accidentally backed scum at the end. Also when I saw the level of time and energy you put in the reads, DT... I felt bad holding out the axe drop.
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Mar 28, 2022 13:30:34 GMT -5
Oh those were all legit reads they would have looked the same were I town. I don't fake shit if I can help it.
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Post by Adrien on Mar 28, 2022 13:45:26 GMT -5
Poor mosler. I was so happy he was the one who caught me. And I would have killed him too. Cuz I am not prone to his fits of not killing people lol. You lovely man you. 🥺 And on Adrien's breakdown, I clued into what not-vanilla meant immediately, but based on the level of info at play thought it would be best to wait for DT to Go the following ppl are scum" before going "Yeah but" Could not have predicted how lynch horny the initial Caff train was... which was hella suspect on Kris & Bobby, and a key reason I accidentally backed scum at the end. Also when I saw the level of time and energy you put in the reads, DT... I felt bad holding out the axe drop. Yeah, I took those notes live as they were happening so at first, I didn't know if it pinged your radar or not. I was like "Mosler HAS to have noticed it!" because I know how good of a player you are. But you got there eventually with DT and was instrumental in not letting scum have a perfect game. Side note: I'm already excited about PM6. If you liked my first game, you'll love this one.
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Mar 28, 2022 14:44:52 GMT -5
I think caffrey killed me instantly that game...
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