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Post by Cross Recoba on Mar 25, 2023 20:10:05 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the Harry lynch tells us nothing because scum likely had no reason to care if they lived. I noticed multiple people are thinking there's a Steele/Kuroi team, to which I'll say, I'd happily vote him and then once he's dead (assuming he's scum), we can cross that bridge once we get to it. I just want to spell something out first: There's six alive now and certainly a max of two scum. Scenario #1: We eliminate.If we kill correctly: Then there's only one scum left and three town tomorrow. Then we're back at MYLO. If we kill incorrectly (which is anyone other than scum, even if they're third-party): We lose unless we have a role blocker or another town that can prevent a death. Scenario #2: We no lynch.Unless scum decides to play chicken (by choosing not to night kill), we increase our chances of killing by random from 1/6 to 1/5. That boosts our chances of selecting correctly. At the end of the day, I'll advocate for a lynch and if I do, it'll be for Steele. Otherwise, I'll move for Scenario #2. Scenario #1 is a riskier play because our chances of correctly guessing scum is less than 33%. (I'd say 33% because 1/3 is approximately that amount, but scum have influence too.) I appreciate the breakdown by numbers but this game has been defined by the inaction of people to interrogate what has been posted and to sit on the fence lest someone picks a train apart and lands on them. That's the best-case for the repeated non-action. I'd almost be tempted to go through the days and work out who has been cautious beyond cautious, a reverse train analysis, if you will. That'd surely be our best bet for getting S1 right. S2 makes sense with the numbers but all you need is two scum to be left and then one townie who refuses to commit to a decision. What I'm saying is that Steele/H2F are either hesitating and taking no action out of fear of messing up or for a more sinister reason.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Mar 25, 2023 20:16:37 GMT -5
It looks like we agree on scum, then. I remember last night, Steele went, "Oh, all I need is a good reason to vote them" then I did. And I didn't get a vote.
Does that make him scum just for that reason? Nope, but I already suspected him before so I don't feel much reason to think he's super town.
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Post by Venom 🕷 on Mar 25, 2023 20:45:39 GMT -5
I can see your point on H2F and I suppose I could go along with that, but Steele seems the safer bet to me. H2F is usually hesitant in the games I remember playing with her. Could be Steele’s MO too tho. Been so long since I’ve been in a game with him I don’t remember his play style. His hesitancy has been much more open and seemingly against town IMO so I’d go him over H2F today for sure.
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Post by Venom 🕷 on Mar 25, 2023 20:47:37 GMT -5
Cross Recoba I don’t want to require that whole thing and don’t want to try and navigate editing so I’ll say this in your response to me. It does make sense to mail Mongo, BUT it coming out after he’s dead is what’s suspicious because he never said he got mail last day phase and now he’s not here to confirm.
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Post by Venom 🕷 on Mar 25, 2023 20:48:06 GMT -5
Requote not require
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Post by Cross Recoba on Mar 25, 2023 20:59:59 GMT -5
We lost a confirmed town, or what I'd consider the litmus test, and our doctor. I'd have rather not have to disclose my power but I figured if I wanted people to be more open in the spirit of narrowing the field, I'd have to go first.
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Post by RattyMcDaddy on Mar 25, 2023 21:13:16 GMT -5
I'm going to base this off of who every is. Scorps is Val, I am Carlos Cool. Not sure who cross, Steele, H2F are at this point.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Mar 25, 2023 21:14:31 GMT -5
Can someone please at least respond to my suggestion of elimination vs not? I don't want indecision on this.
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Post by Cross Recoba on Mar 25, 2023 21:23:56 GMT -5
Can someone please at least respond to my suggestion of elimination vs not? I don't want indecision on this. To be overt. I'd prefer not to have to rely on ye gods at night so: Toss Steele
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Post by Venom 🕷 on Mar 25, 2023 21:35:35 GMT -5
Can someone please at least respond to my suggestion of elimination vs not? I don't want indecision on this. I can see your point both ways. In Mafia universe I think they’d no vote 100% of the time. If we vote I’d vote Steele and probably not on anyone else barring damning evidence.
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Post by RattyMcDaddy on Mar 25, 2023 21:57:58 GMT -5
Can someone please at least respond to my suggestion of elimination vs not? I don't want indecision on this. I can see your point both ways. In Mafia universe I think they’d no vote 100% of the time. If we vote I’d vote Steele and probably not on anyone else barring damning evidence. I've crumbed my role way to much, when we go into night I'm dying, I'd rather leave it on the table and see what we get. Just saying. I'd vote Steele, but we have to have the numbers first before I'll act.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Mar 25, 2023 22:08:37 GMT -5
I'll be honest, the consensus on Steele concerns me.
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Post by Venom 🕷 on Mar 25, 2023 22:19:45 GMT -5
I'll be honest, the consensus on Steele concerns me. The way you've moved between Steele, me, and Hammer has concerned me all game honestly which is why I think you could be Steele’s partner. Now your concern with a consensus on Hammer makes me think you’ve been playing scum theater with him.
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Post by RattyMcDaddy on Mar 25, 2023 22:32:42 GMT -5
It looks like we agree on scum, then. I remember last night, Steele went, "Oh, all I need is a good reason to vote them" then I did. And I didn't get a vote. Does that make him scum just for that reason? Nope, but I already suspected him before so I don't feel much reason to think he's super town. Yeah, back tracking like a mother fucker, you just agreed with cross on Steele, and now your concerned about the vote on him? Make it make sense.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Mar 25, 2023 22:33:30 GMT -5
I'll be honest, the consensus on Steele concerns me. The way you've moved between Steele, me, and Hammer has concerned me all game honestly which is why I think you could be Steele’s partner. Now your concern with a consensus on Hammer makes me think you’ve been playing scum theater with him. Really? I think I've provided a great amount of transparency in my votes. Steele's acted scummy early on in his gameplay. Then Hammer acted scummy. Then you said a good deal of what I didn't like. I've switched a bit between you and Hammer because I wanted a lynch and as mentioned before, there's a lot of inactivity. My hesitancy with Steele now is how quickly everyone's jumping on. I normally have confidence in a wagon when we have to grit and claw our way there.
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