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Post by RattyMcDaddy on Sept 1, 2023 21:02:45 GMT -5
I don't like agreeing with Rat but H2F was defo one of the other people who seemed hesitant to off Hammer. Though she might have voted for him even how? I'd have to go back and check. HOWEVER Rat, if you go back to yesterday, Mosler was more-or-less defending Hammer and voted for me. Which doesn't really make me look good but I don't want to give him credit for being sus on Hammer. Honestly killing a Hammer supporter is the weird part of all this. You should go back and check. Mosler’s death does make you look sus. Indeed it does, that's why I asked about his comings and goings last night, and he was very vague. Mongo just as sus as Hammer. Maybe more. |
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Sept 1, 2023 21:18:31 GMT -5
Yeah I can see that sus for sure. Great work trying to get info out of me though, lol.
So after thinking for a bit I thought to myself "Why would we have a town role cop?" Just assuming that Hammer is town, which is still up in the air. And the answer to that is simple: If [REDACTED]. In that situation a role cop would be more useful than a normal cop because he'd be able to [REDACTED].
I'm redacting because it would seem that the scum either didn't realize this on their own and let him continue living or Hammer is scum and its a moot point anyway.
I think we should hear from some of the others on their comings and goings overnight.
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Sept 1, 2023 21:52:15 GMT -5
I been sus in Hammer, but you seem to be on some watch lists too. So Hammer, how was your evening? Mine was spent in my room watching reruns of The First 48, and I wondered what you were doing. How thoughtful you should ask… I’m fairly certain H2F is clear from being scum, but other than that I don’t have much. Given how many people are sus of me it seems strange I don’t appear to have been targeted. I say that because these same people still think I am scum. A) Fairly certain ... fairly? So she has a power that is usually town... like commuter ... which you outed ... giving scum a nod to not target there. Did you just learn not to out people or did you find a town role that you decided is better for scum NOT to know? I'm just saying it's weird you decided to out a commuter, and call him scum, then turn around and "clear" a dead body, and now "clear" h2f but decide NOT to out her. B) It's pretty obvious why they are not touching you, at least to me. You were very close to getting voted out. And I think we can put the jester fears to bed since Steele all but confirmed his first read. So either you ARE scum, or you are more useful to scum alive to get voted than you are dangerous to them. I think I know exactly why Mongo thinks there would be a role cop rather than a cop. You being alive implies something about the scum roles in the game, and what isn't here. C) Townies who think you're scum can't kill you overnight unless there's a vigilante. Based on the first 3 nights, we had one shot per night so if there IS a vig it's likely 1 shot or restricted somehow. I'm betting with 11 players there's more likely to be a third party than a vigilante. With 11 players we could be looking at 2 scum with good abilities, 3 scum with less powerful abilities, or 2 scum and a third party? I suppose it's Erez and he likes playing weird games so there could be something else at work here but more than likely you are looking at one of those above setups. I have my suspicions about which one we have based on how little has actually been going on and the same insight Mongo was redacting. Here's my problem. I thought yesterday you were town. But now the way this has broken down, it would seem the wiser option might be to off you and get your actual role so we know whether we can trust Steele and h2f. And if you ARE town that helps clarify some things. But until more people pop in for this day phase we can wait. And try and see what else we can get answered. Like ... hey Reck? Have you been pinged for inactivity or did you just lurk and let everyone else talk and then submit a night action? Mongo you keep implying you tried something and it didn't pan out ... does that mean your action isn't going off? DO we have a roleblocker around? |
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Sept 1, 2023 22:04:54 GMT -5
Mongo you keep implying you tried something and it didn't pan out ... does that mean your action isn't going off? DO we have a roleblocker around? Great question! I have no idea if my role is working or not because I haven't heard anything from people I've used it on- which means I'm probably targeting the wrong people. I've only used it twice though because it can cause a lot of chaos if used willy-nilly, so I've just been using it when I have suspicions. |
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Post by Hyperion on Sept 1, 2023 22:06:40 GMT -5
Is Reck still playing?
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Sept 1, 2023 22:33:49 GMT -5
Hmm ... Well ... I actually feel a bit stronger about the town read on Hammer now. Not sold but ... I have reasons I'd rather not share yet to slightly bump Hammer more town in my eyes. I wanna wait for Reck to either post or see if Erez pings him ...
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Post by RattyMcDaddy on Sept 2, 2023 1:25:24 GMT -5
Hmm ... Well ... I actually feel a bit stronger about the town read on Hammer now. Not sold but ... I have reasons I'd rather not share yet to slightly bump Hammer more town in my eyes. I wanna wait for Reck to either post or see if Erez pings him ... I'm not a fan of this Dave, Mongo, Hammer triangle that's firming right now. Not at all. Mongo your leaning on Hammer just enough to avoid eyes on you. Dave your finger point this way, then that way, then not knowing what way isn't very productive. |
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Sept 2, 2023 2:43:54 GMT -5
Hmm ... Well ... I actually feel a bit stronger about the town read on Hammer now. Not sold but ... I have reasons I'd rather not share yet to slightly bump Hammer more town in my eyes. I wanna wait for Reck to either post or see if Erez pings him ... I'm not a fan of this Dave, Mongo, Hammer triangle that's firming right now. Not at all. Mongo your leaning on Hammer just enough to avoid eyes on you. Dave your finger point this way, then that way, then not knowing what way isn't very productive. Counterpoint, I railed on Hammer the hardest yesterday. More to the point I'm concerned about DT's suggestion that- even knowing what [redacted] probably is- we still off Hammer. But I have my own reasons to believe that DT is on the up and up. Anyway Rat, what's your excuse? You've been pushing on everyone awfully hard but offering 0 new information or even any real analysis |
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Post by Hyperion on Sept 2, 2023 2:47:54 GMT -5
Why are people pushing on Hammer? Cos he outed himself as RoleCop when targeting Steele, or more evidence I'm missing. And has he outed himself, or are we assuming that's what he has?
Mosler dying sucks, he's good at scum busting. But to echo what Dave said, that should clear me. As scum I won't kill Mos, and wouldn't have voted for him to my scum team. If I'm beating Geoffrey it's in a battle to the bitter end.
Taking him out is calculated however, and makes me close my suspicions a little.
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Sept 2, 2023 3:21:42 GMT -5
RE: Your question about Hammer
Hammer's outed himself as a role cop when he went after Steele (and outed him) for being a commuter- more or less trying to suss out what Steele's limits were. This was a red flag for everyone since commuter is usually town and at worst 3rd party whereas rolecop can also be a scum role. So the role combined with how he acted towards Steele I've been pushing on him.
...But after having a think on it there's probably a good reason why there might be a role cop so maybe he's not the best one to vote off the island right now.
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Post by hardcorehammer24 on Sept 2, 2023 10:03:28 GMT -5
To Dave: I think you answered your own questions. I had originally kept the Steele’s identity secret as well if you look back.
To Mongo: I think you are on the right track with the roles given what I have been reading from everyone.
To Reck: You’ve been called out twice and so far we know less about you than even Kris, and all we got from her is that she claims to have had a bulletproof. So given my OMGUS nature and Nosler’s absence…
VOTE: RECK
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Post by RattyMcDaddy on Sept 2, 2023 13:07:54 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of this Dave, Mongo, Hammer triangle that's firming right now. Not at all. Mongo your leaning on Hammer just enough to avoid eyes on you. Dave your finger point this way, then that way, then not knowing what way isn't very productive. Counterpoint, I railed on Hammer the hardest yesterday. More to the point I'm concerned about DT's suggestion that- even knowing what [redacted] probably is- we still off Hammer. But I have my own reasons to believe that DT is on the up and up. Anyway Rat, what's your excuse? You've been pushing on everyone awfully hard but offering 0 new information or even any real analysis My excuse? I've been pushing on Hammer, and by your own admission, you've pushed even harder on him than I have. I've just been asking questions if everyone else, if that makes you uncomfortable, maybe more inward reflection is needed on your part? |
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Sept 2, 2023 13:49:18 GMT -5
I'll do a votecount tonight and will prod all inactive players.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Sept 2, 2023 17:15:10 GMT -5
Vote Count 4.1:Reck - 1 (Hammer) Not Voting:Mongo DT Steele h2f Hyperion Rat Bastard Kris Reck Hardcore Hammer Note: A bit of an unofficial prod (based on timing) to the following: Steele Kris Seth Dillinger Legend of Zelda Fun Fact: There's a fan theory that states that Breath of the Wild is in the same universe as the The Wind Waker. Small tidbits such as the abundance of salt rock seems to suggest that this expansive world was once flooded. With nine alive, it takes five to eliminate. Day four ends 9/5 at approximately 10 AM EST. |
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Sept 2, 2023 17:20:57 GMT -5
As a heads up, I spoke with Reck and he's on vacation until Monday so activity from him will be a bit light.
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