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Post by Seth Dillinger on Sept 13, 2023 15:51:15 GMT -5
God dammit I wish I could stay up and see this out but I've got work in the morning. FWIW my biggest sus is still Seth right now... that character claim seems hella fishy to me. He also bit the carrot I left hanging of asking for the details around my role restriction, which I definitely won't be revealing because I want to leave some doubt as to whether I'll actually be around tonight lol. But the one thing I don't want to do is slap down a vote and walk away and then it be WRONG and the real scum hammer it. In his defence, maybe he DID misread his role and maybe Kuroi has given him something that doesn't fit as well as some of the other characters. You realize it's game over if we don't eliminate someone correctly right now, yeah? Like this is the end of the game unless we correctly nail scum. There's no point in not fully claiming.
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Sept 13, 2023 16:34:37 GMT -5
If Steele really did go to bed without voting, and deadline is in 4 hours, we're in a predicament.
There are probably two mafia left with three town. If we eliminate a townie, we lose because it'd be 2-2 in numbers and scum achieve their win condition. If we eliminate nobody, we lose because it'd go into night 3-2, scum get a kill off, and then it's 2-2, achieving their win condition.
So... the only way we do not lose is if we eliminate someone RIGHT NOW.
However... if Steele has gone offline with four hours to deadline without casting a vote, then if he's town, we can't force a vote. The remaining two townies are only 2 votes needed of 3 for majority, and the last two scum can just not vote and let deadline hit, guaranteeing that nobody dies and thus, they get a free kill and win the game.
Therefore, the only way we can actually win now is if Steele is mafia.
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Sept 13, 2023 16:36:31 GMT -5
Like, if Steele is mafia, we vote him and get him out, and the game keeps going. If Steele is town, either we eliminate nobody and guarantee the loss, or we vote him out and lose anyway. I think I'd rather just take the gamble on Steele here and hope he's mafia rather than wait four hours and lose by default. Unless ForeverKuroi would extend the deadline by 24h?
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Sept 13, 2023 17:13:14 GMT -5
I'm stuck on a train platform the last 30 min so I'm not in a happy mood. My biggest scum read was actually Kris because with a vigilante and town role cop a bulletproof scum makes sense and with mine and Mongo's powers it could explain a missed Mafia kill. But I also kinda see what reck is putting down about Steele.
I will say my flavor was literally just I have a mirror shield and am a town reflector. Any other flavor I added cuz that's how I play. I'm also the one saying I'm a mirror since kuroi said reflector but that isn't what he described.
That said ascetic is an easy scum power too ... what do we think? Is Steele the answer?
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Sept 13, 2023 17:53:47 GMT -5
If Kuroi isn't going to give us an extension, the town's only possible play is to vote Steele and hope he's mafia. Otherwise, it's GG anyway. I don't know how I fully feel about those odds, but like, it's literally the only option. If he's town then scum just wait out the deadline anyway. I'm pretty sure it's one of Kris/Dave and then H2F, with Steele as an outlier possibly instead of H2F, but we're sort of out of options just because there's no world where mafia would vote for one of their own right now when they have the game won if they just wait out the clock.
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Sept 13, 2023 17:54:44 GMT -5
If we do eliminate Steele and he flips scum, H2F dies tonight and I'm probably left picking between Kris and DT in endgame which makes me want to put a bullet through my brain lmao
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Sept 13, 2023 17:55:14 GMT -5
I'm about to be out to dinner then busy until deadline so I'll try to check in like 15-20min before deadline to place a vote on Steele if he hasn't miraculously turned up by then.
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Post by Kris on Sept 13, 2023 18:05:40 GMT -5
...so there's a redirector/mirror, a commuter, AND an astetic (I am probably mangling the spelling here) now? All in one game? Something's off--I felt that way before Reck revealed his ability. This confirms it. One of these three is being dishonest, in my opinion--but there's not enough to nail down exactly who it is. As such, we've got no choice but to go with our guts.
Reck, while inactive, has been aggressively town today in regards to wanting to gather information while also being cautious. If he was scum, I think he wouldn't be the latter. Dave's been town-feeling to me all game, but the fact that he's still alive is strange in of itself. I know H2F doesn't like to look at meta, but it has to be considered here. And Steele... he admitted to being a commuter when Hammer outed him, but a commuter not getting offed is also strange.
Things are indeed a mess... but I agree with Reck in voting Steele being better than just being sitting ducks come nightfall.
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Sept 13, 2023 18:11:52 GMT -5
I mean, commuter also conflicts with there being a bulletproof since that's two ways kills can fail. It also doesn't gel well with there being a reflector and ascetic. So yeah, maybe it is just the odd one out here.
But I don't really see anything else happening before deadline, anyway. Steele wouldn't be my top pick for the day, but alas, it is what it is.
VOTE: STEELE
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Sept 13, 2023 18:12:24 GMT -5
UNVOTE
Nevermind, thought we had an hour instead of two. I'll check back in later.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Sept 13, 2023 19:00:22 GMT -5
Just got back. I won't be granting an extension. There's been nearly a day of no activity and I see no extenuating circumstances that warrant one.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Sept 13, 2023 19:00:48 GMT -5
To clarify, we have an hour and a half left.
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Post by Seth Dillinger on Sept 13, 2023 19:08:06 GMT -5
VOTE: Steele
That's it then.
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Post by h2f on Sept 13, 2023 19:19:22 GMT -5
I agree with Reck that this is endgame. I agree with Kris that something is up. I disagree that trying to figure out which roles Our Mod and Savior include is going to go anywhere. The only two roles I have reservations about are Reck and Dave. However, Dave’s been helpful all game and Recks been relatively not posting all game until the final hours where I feel he’s over posting.
That said. There are still four people being active. We have an hour and a half. I’m waiting to see who jumps on this train.
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Post by Kris on Sept 13, 2023 19:20:56 GMT -5
I agree with Reck that this is endgame. I agree with Kris that something is up. I disagree that trying to figure out which roles Our Mod and Savior include is going to go anywhere. The only two roles I have reservations about are Reck and Dave. However, Dave’s been helpful all game and Recks been relatively not posting all game until the final hours where I feel he’s over posting. That said. There are still four people being active. We have an hour and a half. I’m waiting to see who jumps on this train. Three. Steele's gone to bed.
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