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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Apr 15, 2019 4:24:07 GMT -5
I mean you asked me to read yours and give feedback and I still haven’t gotten around to it. To ask for someone to do it and any other task on the network (RPing, matchwriting, booking) is too much. Also something not brought up: taste differences. I have wildly different tastes than many people. I’m sure others might say the same if we ever debated what makes a good RP. But also good RPs can come from people of all different styles. A good Jeff Viper promo looks a lot different than a good Bobby Barratt promo. ___ But while we’re here, what about an official marketer of the XHF to go promote us over social media? I know Mongo’s done some past work over Twitter. I only worry about us keeping up if the job actually goes well 😂 This pretty much nails it. Taste differences are the best and worst of fedding. Me and Caff have had discussions about out differing styles very recently. Doesnt mean one of them is wrong, but one persons opinion all the time only means you start catering to their taste. Another example is me and Kuroi. Kuroi loves my characters but really only likes Lord Dominicus' rp style compared to Nelly's. It doesn't mean one is better, it's just a preference. And Rob has told me that he also felt pressure to follow a certain style back in the XHF days.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Apr 15, 2019 4:44:02 GMT -5
Damn, Caff stole exactly what i was about to say, but without the marketer part.
The only thing unsaid is that i don't know a single person who is universally acclaimed in the rp field.
Moreso, our rps have varying levels of quality too. I've seen Card rps that were ok, and I've seen ones that deserved a shrine of its own.
I think what makes the current network admin team work is the flexibility of the rp tastes. They all have serious and comedic characters so they can appreciate both. Mongo: Mongo, LD. Kanyon: Kanyon, Obsidian, DT: Shogun-Tron, Hyperion) and even then, i have to tell you that i really like that even their tastes differ from one another so that i can have a feeling of a fair shot.
This means that even if i do have a fair shot, because one person is the sole person giving me feedback, i wouldn't feel like i would. I would have unrealistic expectations because other admins wouldn't be there to balance out.
I know i personally feel iffy giving feedback because the AWF admin team has diverse tastes and because someone molding their rps based on my recommendations might have just lost the vote of another admin.
And like Bobby said, i don't think i want an official review after every rp. Im fine with the comments people leave on their own.
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Apr 15, 2019 4:53:05 GMT -5
Man, you guys have no idea how different DT and my tastes are. So if you're wondering how homogeneous our booking is- it's not. DT and I specifically look for almost opposite styles sometimes. Kanyon falls somewhere in the middle like the glue he is. The variety of tastes helps a lot when we're booking and thinking of ways to do stuff.
Kuroi is right on the mark here- for once- ONLY THIS ONCE, DON'T THINK I LIKE YOU OR ANYTHING
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Apr 15, 2019 4:58:30 GMT -5
So since im on the mark all the time, how about when i win the x crown, i can make it Viper-themed and we rename the XHF Rumble the "Jeffrey Viper memorial and invitational" qnd everyone except for Dylan is invited to participate?
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Apr 15, 2019 5:23:34 GMT -5
So since im on the mark all the time, how about when i win the x crown, i can make it Viper-themed and we rename the XHF Rumble the "Jeffrey Viper memorial and invitational" qnd everyone except for Dylan is invited to participate? Aaaaaand we're back to normal. Haha, let's laugh at Kuroi and his hopes and dreams
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Post by Kira Izumi on Apr 15, 2019 13:35:11 GMT -5
I've never done twitter work- reddit work though I have. I'd love a guy who actually marketed us regularly i sorta do that to a point with SSS. Then again if we have an XHF Network official twitter and talk about/post about all our feds and stuff that might work too. Efed Twitter is HUGE!
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Apr 15, 2019 13:49:58 GMT -5
I am not Hyperion dude. I'm not that good.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Apr 15, 2019 14:06:09 GMT -5
YOU SAID YOU WERE.
Hey everyone, this guy's a big fat phoney!
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Post by "The Family Man" Danny Ray on Apr 15, 2019 15:36:23 GMT -5
I just figured it would help out a lot of guys, especially new guys and ones still learning (ME) lol, but seriously I have noticed in a bunch of feds around that the admins give a lot of feedback after the shows or during the posting of roleplays, after the roleplays are posted they will let the handler know what they think and it seems to be a big plus or bonus for those feds. And with how unique the XHF already is it would really benefit us if we had someone who took the time just to let people know what they thought. I know each fed has their own admin team and each one judges differently and it's hard to figure out how to roleplay due to that. I get confused because of it. I know I just want to know if I am going down a path that will take me somewhere or if I'm wasting my time with my character so I can try another approach. Does that make sense? So that's why I think having someone do this would really help.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Apr 15, 2019 15:46:24 GMT -5
I don't think RPing to a specific style or toward an admin is really the best way to do it. I think it's a lot like trying to teach kids to a test. Sure, it might help you win a match or two, but it defeats the entire point behind it
This is a hobby we all do. None of us get paid to do this. Hell, if anything, I've spent some money on this doing some of these promos.
This should be about fun and enjoyment. Copycat loses every match he's ever been in since the AWF began, even in a match where he didn't even have any opponents, but I have fun doing this. Then there's Michael Storm and while he appears to be my most successful XHF character so far (At least, as far as my serious guys go), he has lost. A lot. To Hyperion. To Bobby Barratt, to many others. And sometimes I feel like I'm supposed to win, but even when I get frustrated, I still enjoy the story.
So you shouldn't (at least, in my opinion) RP to someone's particular tastes. This is your RPs, not theirs. If you're enjoying it, you're not wasting your time.
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Post by IMMORTALS on Apr 15, 2019 15:51:51 GMT -5
This is a position that would probably ask for all the personal time from a person to read every rp and comment feedback for each one within a 24 hour timeframe. Is it a good idea? Sure, but I can only see execution being horrible. I stand by if you want feedback, just come to the admins of your fed. We'll tell you where you're doing good and bad, and where you'll need to improve for success. This is the best answer. If you want true feedback from the judging point of view, DM your admins. If you want a public feedback each fed has a forum for that. But bear in mind you will need to be able to take feedback correctly before posting it in public. As for asking someone to do that full time, reading everyone's RPs...that is crazy. And that opinion will likely clash with others. So keep it private while you can, and ask the admins of your respective feds. And Dave is Hyperion. He told me himself. He's that good.
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Post by Kira Izumi on Apr 15, 2019 15:55:18 GMT -5
imo you should do what you want to do. and you should rp how you want to. that way it's more fun for you and your not trying to focus on weather admin a or admin b will like it. because there's always a chance admins c,d and e won't. getting advice and help is always nice, just don't try and tater towards one admins taste. im sure we all know they come and go all the time too. So you could get the perfect promo for those admins then they all leave and your back to square one.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Apr 15, 2019 16:14:16 GMT -5
I sometimes do something only because it's something that the admins don't like.
So that naked Viper RP?
You can thank Mongo.
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Post by Kira Izumi on Apr 15, 2019 16:21:07 GMT -5
thanks mongo... your why we got naked viper. you should of lied and said you liked that.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Apr 15, 2019 16:26:16 GMT -5
thanks mongo... your why we got naked viper. you should of lied and said you liked that. <iframe width="25.539999999999964" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 25.539999999999964px; height: 2.9200000000000017px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_78009348" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.539999999999964" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 25.54px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1215px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_12777691" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.539999999999964" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 25.54px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_61061543" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.539999999999964" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 25.54px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1215px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_63294245" scrolling="no"></iframe> Yes, Mongo. Tell me you like naked Viper.
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