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Post by anthonycaffrey on Mar 26, 2020 18:15:41 GMT -5
Okay, catching up since this morning and boy have y'all been busy as fuck since that post I did, I'm going to take down points from what I see and link the posts I find them in. Okay, so my reads as of right now haven't really changed except for Caffrey. I think, if I'm right with my thinking, is legit scum. I cannot see how you could come outta nowhere with some sly excuse to vote for mongo than "i wanted to use my role on him but i got someone else", to me that doesn't come out right and to me it seems like you're trying to get everyone on the train for a Mongo lynch. You also think that everyone is a bit lazy and would consider me as town for such a long post... I ask of you, what problems do you see with it? I didn't FOS anyone or vote for anyone because I wasn't sure. Yes I said that Hype was a scum read but I still didn't vote for him, if that was the case I'd have voted for you ages ago. None of your theories make any bit of sense, and i'd be right with others to think you're a mafia captain. You've been very leader-like this day and it's not looking good for you. The thing about Steele being evil isn't doing anything for me, yes I see the stumbles but I can't see him as scum. Although it's a very small town read, it's there. The same can be said about Nausicaa and her ice cream, it still goes for a null read with me but once again, I don't see scum I will go for an FOS on Dave for the simple reason of we STILL don't know what it does, considering it's called a fucking RAINBOW-INATOR. Someone out there has a silencer role, someone must have deflected it, somehow it hit Dave... and I think he's the silencer. Buuuuut... I'm going to VOTE for Caffrey because of the reasons stated above. Convince me enough that your claims for Nausicaa/Mongo/Steele are right and I might change my mind. Also, on the contrary, there's ten in this game since the beginning... Would there really be three scum in such a small game? I'm just saying since I see some of you like to point for three scum members but we do have to remember it's a small playing field unlike others. I think it might be a two team scum. Look back at Mafia 2: The Scumpire Strikes Back. That had ten people and I remember being only two scum because I was a scum member in that game. One more thing... h2f , can we have a vote count please? also if I'm a leader who are my minions following me oh that's right everyone thinks i'm dumb and wrong cool cool |
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Post by anthonycaffrey on Mar 26, 2020 18:17:00 GMT -5
Okay, catching up since this morning and boy have y'all been busy as fuck since that post I did, I'm going to take down points from what I see and link the posts I find them in. Okay, so my reads as of right now haven't really changed except for Caffrey. I think, if I'm right with my thinking, is legit scum. I cannot see how you could come outta nowhere with some sly excuse to vote for mongo than "i wanted to use my role on him but i got someone else", to me that doesn't come out right and to me it seems like you're trying to get everyone on the train for a Mongo lynch. You also think that everyone is a bit lazy and would consider me as town for such a long post... I ask of you, what problems do you see with it? I didn't FOS anyone or vote for anyone because I wasn't sure. Yes I said that Hype was a scum read but I still didn't vote for him, if that was the case I'd have voted for you ages ago. None of your theories make any bit of sense, and i'd be right with others to think you're a mafia captain. You've been very leader-like this day and it's not looking good for you. The thing about Steele being evil isn't doing anything for me, yes I see the stumbles but I can't see him as scum. Although it's a very small town read, it's there. The same can be said about Nausicaa and her ice cream, it still goes for a null read with me but once again, I don't see scum I will go for an FOS on Dave for the simple reason of we STILL don't know what it does, considering it's called a fucking RAINBOW-INATOR. Someone out there has a silencer role, someone must have deflected it, somehow it hit Dave... and I think he's the silencer. Buuuuut... I'm going to VOTE for Caffrey because of the reasons stated above. Convince me enough that your claims for Nausicaa/Mongo/Steele are right and I might change my mind. Also, on the contrary, there's ten in this game since the beginning... Would there really be three scum in such a small game? I'm just saying since I see some of you like to point for three scum members but we do have to remember it's a small playing field unlike others. I think it might be a two team scum. Look back at Mafia 2: The Scumpire Strikes Back. That had ten people and I remember being only two scum because I was a scum member in that game. One more thing... h2f , can we have a vote count please? if it's just two it's Steele/Nausicaa and we can go home pretty fast |
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Mar 26, 2020 18:27:35 GMT -5
As DT might say (sorry not sorry DT, it’s hilarious)
Cyan Amber Fuchsia Fuchsia
Indigo Seafoam
Orange Navy
Turquoise Indigo Lime Turquoise
(The heat’s so real tho DT)
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Post by h2f on Mar 26, 2020 18:48:15 GMT -5
As DT might say (sorry not sorry DT, it’s hilarious) Cyan Amber Fuchsia Fuchsia Indigo Seafoam Orange Navy Turquoise Indigo Lime Turquoise (The heat’s so real tho DT)
What is Tilt?
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Post by h2f on Mar 26, 2020 18:55:14 GMT -5
Vote Update Day 2.1
Today has been a very busy day; remember the day ends Saturday at 6pm US eastern (22:00 GMC)
Please recall we are being kind to each other because this is a game. Keep insults to game play.
Nine Alive Players 1. mosler
2. Dave - 1 against
3. Kira Dead Chat participant
4. Steele
5. Nausicaä - 1 against
6. caffrey - 1 against
7. HYPERION
8. Mongo - 3 against
9. Kanyon
10. Maverick
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Mar 26, 2020 18:55:21 GMT -5
As DT might say (sorry not sorry DT, it’s hilarious) Cyan Amber Fuchsia Fuchsia Indigo Seafoam Orange Navy Turquoise Indigo Lime Turquoise (The heat’s so real tho DT) What is Tilt?
Being is on tilt is when a player starts panicking and goes post-crazy (I think I heard the term in an old game...or I made it up). I think it can be used as an indicator for scum (based on some of our previous games). Caff’s not really under attack and had no votes on him but he’s gotten SUPER defensive and is lashing out in many directions. I’d say that’s an “on tilt” response. Seth did that in the Avengers game and I ran onto the scum chat to tell him to slow it down A no lynch is still a win for mafia, not as cool as a mislynch but keeps mafia ahead of the game |
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Mar 26, 2020 18:56:09 GMT -5
Ebwop: Whoops, one vote on Caff, my bad
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Post by Steele on Mar 27, 2020 0:32:01 GMT -5
I never really pushed Nausicaa because I didn’t have anything great on Nausicaa at the time beyond that mini-OMGUS against you. If you could please point out the “mental gymnastics” I pulled to cut off my town read on Kira then I’d appreciate it. I basically doubled down on my town clear, not cut it off. Yeah, Mosler and Kanyon reads were weak. Yesterday was a VERY tough day for reads. I even said they were weak, but hell they are stronger than “oh Ice cream sounds evil”  My heat on you was that you are making these pushes and seemingly trying to see what sticks. You started by probing one invention and then another, when presumably your power is like mine and it’s clear that an invention isn’t always the most obvious power. Maybe yours is, maybe you assumed mine was. But you’ve apparently lined up me, Mav and Nausicaa as scum team. Maybe the other two are but it sure as hell isn't me. (Hey now you’ve got me using the Kanyon defence) Either way, you had suspicions on Photoshop, well I’ve declared. Balls in your court now, whether you trust me or not. But is that why you pulled up my post from the previous day out of the blue? Half-reads that are pretty out-of-date now suddenly have you worried for some reason? Was something in that list of reads actually closer to the truth than I thought? Has me claiming photoshop possibly lowered its threat level? Anyway, point is - you brought up that read list for some reason right in the middle of trying to figure out what’s going on with DT... surely it’s not to just say how crap the reads all were? I brought up the list because it's real weird you ran through these mental gymnastics on everyone but Nausicaa. Not weird --- wolfy. Yesterday was admitedly a feeling out phase but in a game like h2f's where the mechanics are going to naturally lend themselves to being very scum outting, I'm sure she'd throw something useless in like ice cream and then it turns out to be some kind of like roleblocker scum role type of thing. I dunno about Mav specficially but you not naming either of them in that line of thoughts makes me make an associative. I pulled up your post specifically because while looking for Kira's stuff I realized I had no read on you and I was trying to figure out what the fuck your slot was doing. I also had brought that up while trying to figure out Kira/Nausicaa, not DT. So nah. That read on Kira is NOT you doubling down on a townread. That's you literally trying to justify not townreading him by saying he might be pushing a scum narrative.Caff. I literally started off my paragraph on Kira by saying he reads as town to me:“Kira is coming across as townie to me.” I then proceeded to outline how he was playing: “He's maybe trying too hard to look into the 10:16 ratio and seeing clues where there are none, but he does seem to be trying.” I analysed his main avenue of interest and compared it to previous MO for h2f when running a game: “He brought up the "what if the spare inventions are extra scum powers?" question - this is plausible, because in both her previous games h2f has given people combined powers...” And finally, this is my conclusion: “...but I don't think Kira would put it out there if this is true and he's scum.” I edited out an extraneous “I” there but if anyone wants to check I haven’t edited that further then be my guest. But how you can claim thats “mental gymnastics” and that I’ve cut off a town read is beyond me. I literally started by reading him as town and I ended by saying that I don’t think Kira would investigate and give away a potential scum mechanic if he was scum. If you’re referring to the line “this is plausible” then I think it’s pretty clear that it was in reference to Kira’s theory of scum having more than one power, not to Kira possibly being scum. So again I ask you, where are the mental gymnastics? If anyone is on the cerebral pommel horse right now, it’s you. As wary as I am of him I think DT has a point. |
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Post by Curtis D. Kanyon on Mar 27, 2020 12:51:17 GMT -5
Okay, I have had a multitude of thoughts listening to all the chatter.
1) DT is still mad at Mongo, but just by a hunch and/or heat from one-day 1. But verily adamant it was Mongo that prayed him. Yet DT got knocked out on the toilet, which would lean toward Hype as the culprit due to the toiletry nature of his invention. For this situation, I have come to the result:
FoS: Hype
Unvote: Mongo
2) Maverick is smoking a little less before his last post and made some good points. But, he defends Steele and Nausicaa with more enthusiasm than I feel warranted. Grant it, I don't think either has acted scummy enough yet, but not town enough yet either. If one of these people are scum, then I think Mav is in with them. But I do have a theory coming up later.
3) Mosler is as excellent as ever in embracing his role. But I was blinded by a robotic actor in another timeline before, thus I will keep my eye on him.
4) Caffrey started out fun enough, but got defensive quick. However, that appears to be a pattern and not enough of a reason for me to claim him scum. Now, to my theory. It t'was a bold move to claim he knew Nausicca and Mongo swapped based upon his nightly action. I do not believe our late inventor picked them based on any logical reads due to it being day one and no one was even lynched. Due to Nausicaa able to serve delicious ice cream unencumbered today, I believe Caff to be town at the moment! However, due to him doing whatever he planned to do to Nausicaa instead of Mongo and now wishing to put Naussica on the chopping block, it would make the most sense that he knows what he's talking about. Thusly, I must unfortunately come to the logical conclusion
Vote: Nausicaa
It is with a heavy heart as I do not wish to rid this faire of ice cream, but it is what must be done. From here, should Nausicaa turn up scum, then we should look into Mav. If Nausicaa turns up town, then I think I'm wrong about Caff and he is in fact the scum. Why? Even deeper theory, there's also a slight possibility he targeted Mongo, but Kira got it because they swapped, and he claimed someone else to save face. I know that's crazy, but something I could see Caff smart enough to do. Right now, I don't think he did that. With such a strong claim on knowing so much about Nausicaa with so little information from Nausicaa, it seems the best course of action to agree with him for now.
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Mar 27, 2020 13:46:16 GMT -5
Okay, I have had a multitude of thoughts listening to all the chatter. 1) DT is still mad at Mongo, but just by a hunch and/or heat from one-day 1. But verily adamant it was Mongo that prayed him. Yet DT got knocked out on the toilet, which would lean toward Hype as the culprit due to the toiletry nature of his invention. For this situation, I have come to the result: FoS: HypeUnvote: Mongo2) Maverick is smoking a little less before his last post and made some good points. But, he defends Steele and Nausicaa with more enthusiasm than I feel warranted. Grant it, I don't think either has acted scummy enough yet, but not town enough yet either. If one of these people are scum, then I think Mav is in with them. But I do have a theory coming up later. 3) Mosler is as excellent as ever in embracing his role. But I was blinded by a robotic actor in another timeline before, thus I will keep my eye on him. 4) Caffrey started out fun enough, but got defensive quick. However, that appears to be a pattern and not enough of a reason for me to claim him scum. Now, to my theory. It t'was a bold move to claim he knew Nausicca and Mongo swapped based upon his nightly action. I do not believe our late inventor picked them based on any logical reads due to it being day one and no one was even lynched. Due to Nausicaa able to serve delicious ice cream unencumbered today, I believe Caff to be town at the moment! However, due to him doing whatever he planned to do to Nausicaa instead of Mongo and now wishing to put Naussica on the chopping block, it would make the most sense that he knows what he's talking about. Thusly, I must unfortunately come to the logical conclusion Vote: NausicaaIt is with a heavy heart as I do not wish to rid this faire of ice cream, but it is what must be done. From here, should Nausicaa turn up scum, then we should look into Mav. If Nausicaa turns up town, then I think I'm wrong about Caff and he is in fact the scum. Why? Even deeper theory, there's also a slight possibility he targeted Mongo, but Kira got it because they swapped, and he claimed someone else to save face. I know that's crazy, but something I could see Caff smart enough to do. Right now, I don't think he did that. With such a strong claim on knowing so much about Nausicaa with so little information from Nausicaa, it seems the best course of action to agree with him for now. Hazel Mauve mauve... Orange kobi Tan hazel indigo salmon Salmon ebony emerald mauve salmon Lime orange green indigo copper alabaster lemon Unvote: Mongo ... Salmon indigo green hazel ...... Vote: Nausicaa |
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Post by mosler on Mar 27, 2020 13:48:09 GMT -5
Doc Brown has found Einstein drinking from the toilet (what an unfortunate safeclaim).
”Unknown (Caff) used his ability on one of Harim (Mongo) / Tang (Nausica) / GLADoS (Kira). Has he mentioned which one? All we know is that GLADoS (Kira) switched the two others - possibly under orders. It may have thrown some monkey wrenches in town activities - but that blame falls on the malicious *now deceased* victim A.I. There is little more to read on that.
Their being switched gives no evidence on either. And while I don’t like speculating on people’s abilities this early, as it plays into the nationalists’ hands (Note from the future: Steele reads Mosler speculating on abilities and suggests it’s very scummish), I will say that the two inventions most likely to have healing properties are thermometer and ice cream, so if we’re planning on mislynching someone - can we pick a less helpful resource?
Until it gives us something better to work with the King of Tang (Nausica) is an inventor (town). Ferb (DT) on the other hand, has all but stated that Cocteau (Hype) is responsible for his current state (which is more puckish than malicious), while starting the train on Harim (Mongo). Which doesn’t gel.
If you want to lynch Harim for leaning a little too heavily on character, or Tang for using anime pics instead of character - that is cool, but those are the only rational reasons currently on the table.
In conclusion, as the only person who hasn’t really provided any insights towards his invention...
FOS: Mav ”
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Post by mosler on Mar 27, 2020 14:21:23 GMT -5
Further -
“Unknown (Caff)’s Tang (Nausicaa) hypothesis was based on past game interactions between the ice cream king and Adobe (Steele), along with trying to tie GLADoS (Kira)’s death to suspicions about Tang (Nausicaa).
GLADoS (Kira) made no suspicions public.
It is also largely based on the elaborate Machiavellian scheme that GLADoS (Kira) tried to switch the characters to get a read meant for Hiram (Mongo) on Tang (Nausicaa)........... I know I haven’t been attending these events as long as the rest of you, but GLADoS is no GLADoS.
Loveless & Ferb jumping on this train is highly questionable.
Vote: Ferb (DT)
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Post by anthonycaffrey on Mar 27, 2020 15:16:57 GMT -5
Doc Brown has found Einstein drinking from the toilet (what an unfortunate safeclaim). ”Unknown (Caff) used his ability on one of Harim (Mongo) / Tang (Nausica) / GLADoS (Kira). Has he mentioned which one? All we know is that GLADoS (Kira) switched the two others - possibly under orders. It may have thrown some monkey wrenches in town activities - but that blame falls on the malicious *now deceased* victim A.I. There is little more to read on that. Their being switched gives no evidence on either. And while I don’t like speculating on people’s abilities this early, as it plays into the nationalists’ hands (Note from the future: Steele reads Mosler speculating on abilities and suggests it’s very scummish), I will say that the two inventions most likely to have healing properties are thermometer and ice cream, so if we’re planning on mislynching someone - can we pick a less helpful resource? Until it gives us something better to work with the King of Tang (Nausica) is an inventor (town). Ferb (DT) on the other hand, has all but stated that Cocteau (Hype) is responsible for his current state (which is more puckish than malicious), while starting the train on Harim (Mongo). Which doesn’t gel. If you want to lynch Harim for leaning a little too heavily on character, or Tang for using anime pics instead of character - that is cool, but those are the only rational reasons currently on the table. In conclusion, as the only person who hasn’t really provided any insights towards his invention... FOS: Mav ” Hardclaiming that I used it on Mongo i doubt ice cream heals. |
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Post by anthonycaffrey on Mar 27, 2020 15:18:50 GMT -5
Further - “Unknown (Caff)’s Tang (Nausicaa) hypothesis was based on past game interactions between the ice cream king and Adobe (Steele), along with trying to tie GLADoS (Kira)’s death to suspicions about Tang (Nausicaa). GLADoS (Kira) made no suspicions public. It is also largely based on the elaborate Machiavellian scheme that GLADoS (Kira) tried to switch the characters to get a read meant for Hiram (Mongo) on Tang (Nausicaa)........... I know I haven’t been attending these events as long as the rest of you, but GLADoS is no GLADoS. Loveless & Ferb jumping on this train is highly questionable. Vote: Ferb (DT)Moss, I'm never fucking ever making a read based on past games. That's just dumb. I get you want DT killed but if we flip Nausicaa and they come back scum, boom I'm cleared and we can move on to hunt one scum. I am not lynching DT on the day he can't respond well at all. Another day? Fine |
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Post by mosler on Mar 27, 2020 16:39:04 GMT -5
To put things simply because U don't feel like reading: I targeted Mongo with my night action. When I received the result, it said I had did my action to Nausicaa. All three actors are still alive, sobtake that for what it's worth. My mistake, I was under the impression a case you made against Adobe (Steele) & Tang (Nausicaa) referenced their previous working relationship. While searching for that message, I did come across the above. ...And did the action you took on Tang (Nausicaa), reveal anything that is related to our current lynch? I.E. Hands covered in strawberry jam, etc? More importantly: Did Harim (Mongo) and Tang (Nausicca) get information from our hosts (h2f) confirming the switch? They have both remained rather silent on the issue, confirming without giving any details that might be different. I was quite happy to wait a day for Ferb (DT) to speak for himself, until he jumped on this frankly weak train. In a convention with only 9 inventors, 2-3 of which are investors (scum) there are far more suspect things currently at play for this particular mislynch. |
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