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Post by Mav. on Apr 2, 2020 9:51:04 GMT -5
As Corvo (Mav) is responsible for Ferb (DT)’s death. That suggests that the scum’s target for night 2 was a failure. Does anyone have any insights as to why that might be? Three possible solutions... - There's a doctor, (maybe it's you, doc lmao) and he protected whoever it was - They decided to no kill (which makes no sense) - The roleblocker is town and stopped the kill (something I'm 99 percent sure you can do) |
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Post by mosler on Apr 2, 2020 10:05:08 GMT -5
I can confirm, I am not the doctor... and I don’t believe there is one in this game (as much as I enjoyed my Caff burn yesterday).
Planning to reveal my role later tonight, but want to give Kanyon & Mongo a chance to weigh in / claim first.
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Post by Mav. on Apr 2, 2020 10:09:27 GMT -5
I can confirm, I am not the doctor... and I don’t believe there is one in this game (as much as I enjoyed my Caff burn yesterday). Planning to reveal my role later tonight, but want to give Kanyon & Mongo a chance to weigh in / claim first. Mongo's gone to sleep (korea time is weird AF) and is probably asleep right now, so we won't be hearing from him for a while. |
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Post by mosler on Apr 2, 2020 10:18:07 GMT -5
True, but we have a few days - so if me waiting till the evening catches someone in a lie, we might as well wait to hear from them. I also wouldn’t dream of asking Steele what photoshop does without putting my own cards on the table, so feel it’s best to at least delay until other members of our table can respond to Hype’s tragic shitshow.
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Apr 2, 2020 10:40:23 GMT -5
I doubt we have a doctor. My role is passive- but if it activates you’ll know.
Mav, how many vig shots do you get?
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Post by Mav. on Apr 2, 2020 10:47:19 GMT -5
I doubt we have a doctor. My role is passive- but if it activates you’ll know. Mav, how many vig shots do you get? 'Twas a one shot. |
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Apr 2, 2020 10:52:27 GMT -5
I doubt we have a doctor. My role is passive- but if it activates you’ll know. Mav, how many vig shots do you get? 'Twas a one shot. Mav I’ve had vigilante before and if it’s blocked it’s gone. So how could you have been blocked and gotten a second try (and killed) DT? |
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Post by Mav. on Apr 2, 2020 10:56:42 GMT -5
Vote: Mav I’ve had vigilante before and if it’s blocked it’s gone. So how could you have been blocked and gotten a second try (and killed) DT? Because I was allowed my shot back? I was a vigilante before and that's never happened nor have I ever allowed that in my games, don't jump to conclusions here. |
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Post by Steele on Apr 2, 2020 11:22:43 GMT -5
Alright. Analysis has been really hard, especially looking at vote counts. It seems to me that Scum haven’t really been following patterns and that’s understandable... when you nightkill the person who has been digging the most against you then it’s picked up quickly by town.
Two of the four of you are scum. If it was three, the game would be over.
The only wagons I've seen from you guys are on Day 2 when Mongo and Mosler both voted for DT, and on Day 3 when Mav, Mongo and Kanyon all voted for Caffrey.
In a nutshell, scum are keeping their noses very clean indeed.
Lets look at the roles...
So far on the town side we’ve had a Hider (Caff), Bus Driver (Kira), Post Restrictor (Hype), Lie Detector (DT), Loved (Nausicaa) and... my ability. This leaves two town roles unknown to me.
I know there is a roleblocker, but I don’t know who.
Maverick has claimed to be a vigilante.
Mongo has hinted at being a bomb or Paranoid Gun Owner.
Mosler has said he will reveal his role later. Given that he has been claiming the flux capacitor all game long, I’m guessing that he’s telling the truth. And I don’t see how Flux Capacitor would be linked to Roleblocker.
Which would leave Kanyon as the logical owner of the roleblocker ability.
Except - those claims of Bomb/PGO and Vigilante are *very* concerning to me with the benefit of hindsight. It’s common for scum to claim these powers, either to explain away a death or two, or to stop people from sniffing round them at night.
One of Mongo or Maverick could easily be a roleblocker. Maverick most likely as he has a knife - and my PM stated a wire was pulled out of my invention. Photoshop doesn’t have wires, so this must be a flavour of the roleblocker ability. Kanyon’s spider is made from a spool of wire, this could also be a clue.
So as for the claims made by Mongo and Mav... Mongo’s one seems to be the most legit. His invention is a rat trap that shoots the rat. This lends itself perfectly to PGO or bomb.
Maverick on the other hand sounds fishy. He’s a one-shot vigilante who just so happened to fire his only shot off on the night that the Mafia kill failed. And despite only being a one-shot, he wanted to waste it night one in a random “lol” shot on Caff?
He also jumped straight into the day by asking about the red check on me. I am convinced scum left me alive last night precisely because of Caff’s “check” on me, so they could set me up for an easy lynch. His curiosity about that check could be genuinely towny, but given the events of the night and his eagerness to proceed with it... I’m getting scum vibes.
Mosler... I’m going to town-lean right now. He’s offering to give Kanyon and Mongo time to talk and that’s not really a good play for scum if one or both of them are town.
Mongo... slight town lean. He voted Mav, and if they’re together then he wouldn’t do that.
Kanyon... he was actually my big suspect with Hype going into today. And by process of elimination, he’s 3rd least towny to me right now.
FOS: Kanyon
Vote: Mav
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Post by Steele on Apr 2, 2020 11:24:06 GMT -5
Wait I mean third most towny. You know what I mean.
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Post by Steele on Apr 2, 2020 11:37:42 GMT -5
Vote: Mav I’ve had vigilante before and if it’s blocked it’s gone. So how could you have been blocked and gotten a second try (and killed) DT? Because I was allowed my shot back? I was a vigilante before and that's never happened nor have I ever allowed that in my games, don't jump to conclusions here. This is something that’s down to mod’s discretion. What I don’t buy is that he’s only one-shot but he wanted to throw it away on the first night just for the lulz. |
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Post by h2f on Apr 2, 2020 11:56:14 GMT -5
Vote Count Day 4.1[/div]
Five players left.
1. mosler
2. Dave - Dead chat participant
3. Kira
4. Steele
5. Nausicaä
6. caffrey
7. HYPERION
8. Mongo
9. Kanyon
10. Maverick - 2 Against
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Post by Mav. on Apr 2, 2020 12:15:13 GMT -5
Right now, it looks like I'm in the hot seat. I had a very fucking funny feeling this would happen because this always seems to happen to me and then you fucking idiots look dumb as shit when i roll town. So I hope you guys let me speak my mind and not lynch me off, you heathens. It seems to me that we're at endgame here, we're 1-2 days away from a possible win for us (GO GOOD GUYS!) and be free from the ravenous scumbags that want to destroy our inventions. Steele, you're very much correct. Vigilante and Paranoid Gun Owner are most likely to be claimed by scum, I've seen it happen before but you know what else I've seen?
VIGILANTES GETTING THEIR SHOT BACK.
If this isn't proof that it's not something that is always the case then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe h2f decided not to allow this, I know I did the same when I gave someone the vigilante role in my games. People moderate the roles differently, it's not always going to be the same set of rules for each and every game. The reason as to why I was going to kill Caffrey night one is because I didn't plan to play this game as serious as I have, why did you think I shitposted day one? When I found out I was roleblocked, I kinda got into it with that very long post at the start of day two. Speaking of that post in day two, there's been one scum read from then that's still alive now...
Curtis D. Kanyon.
*le gasp* - My sexy time partner has been scum this whole time? But HOW?!?!?!?!?!
Allow me to explain. His actions have been... odd, to say the least. His last post in this game is very much odd indeed after lynching off Nausicaa, he jumped his gun right for Caffrey. No rhyme or reason, just a quote of his last reads and then the vote for Caffrey. That's the last time we've heard from Kanyon since, not to mention, he's been on a lot of scum reads including my own even from the beginning. I'm not here to mislynch folks, I think we've got ourselves one.
I'm also wanting to know Mosler and Steele's roles, you've been holding your cards too close to your chest for a long time now boys. The scum-o-meter is rising for one of you two and I ain't liking it!
VOTE: Kanyon.
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Post by Steele on Apr 2, 2020 12:37:11 GMT -5
Ah yes, that long post. I forgot to mention it up there. The one where you put a “SCUM” tag on two players yet didn’t vote for anyone.
If you were confident enough to give a “SCUM” verdict on two players at that point then why didn’t you vote for either of them until you went back *later* to vote for Hype in a different post?
I’ve been left alive until this point and it’s interesting to note - as Caff did - that you have generally been off my scum reads, and I don’t think I’ve put that much pressure on Kanyon. There was no reason to kill me off while I was chasing round Caff, Hype, Nausicaa, DT...
And now that Mongo and I have voted for you you come up with this case against Kanyon, who I’ve fingered as your scum buddy - where was this conviction previously? Sure, you suspected him in one post a few IRL days back but now the heat is on you suddenly you’ve “got it?”
This smacks of a desperation flail/bus to me. Try and get Kanyon booted out and flip him as scum so you can be the guy who “found” him and clear yourself as town. Even when right now I should be the one getting all the attention. This has been a hard game, but your sudden flip to Kanyon just sets off too many bells.
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Post by Steele on Apr 2, 2020 12:41:16 GMT -5
And of course you want to know mine and Mosler’s roles. Scum always want to know town roles  Mosler, don’t say anything. There’s no point. Either you’re scum and you’ll lie anyway, or you’re town and you’ll make scum’s job easier when they have to decide who to nightkill. Let’s make ‘em sweat. |
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