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Post by anthonycaffrey on Jun 6, 2020 23:47:24 GMT -5
Hi y'all!
It's your friendly neighborhood X-Crown champion with an idea related to the X-Crown that isn't about changing any of the rules of defending the belt(s) itself.
THE IDEA: 1) Whichever company has the X-Crown in its grasp, that company is the first one listed on the website. 2) The rest of the companies are listed in date order, as is the standard now. 3) When that company loses the championship, it drops back to wherever it was in the listings.
WHAT THIS HELPS WITH: A) Getting new companies to the Network to take the Crown seriously B) Recruitment for newer companies C) Adding another layer of prestige to the X-Crown (not that it needs it) D) Encouraging fierce Crown competition/competitors being sent for all major cross-fed events
PROBLEMS THIS MIGHT CAUSE: !) Some companies are not RP-based/won't be able to send X-Crown competitors and therefore will never be up top @) Companies may hoard the X-Crown and not offer championship matches to those outside the company #) Disrespectful to older companies that have held strong for years to climb up the ladder/dis-content (not a word) this could cause
Weigh in with your thoughts below. I have some additional thoughts but because I am for the idea I might taint the thought pool if I go first. My recommendation would be, if people like this, to enact it from this year's Night of Champions-on going forward.
Thanks, Caff
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Post by mosler on Jun 7, 2020 2:13:18 GMT -5
This is a great idea, that I just wish you'd had 6 months ago. 😥
As for the feds that don't have RPing options and can't really challenge the ZX*Crown... what were the odds of them wrestling the top board position from the legacy fed anyway?
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Jun 7, 2020 3:34:46 GMT -5
This is a great idea, that I just wish you'd had 6 months ago. 😥 As for the feds that don't have RPing options and can't really challenge the ZX*Crown... what were the odds of them wrestling the top board position from the legacy fed anyway? Actually the current #2, J-ROK is an angle fed, lol
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Post by MYÅŒJIN on Jun 7, 2020 6:09:15 GMT -5
Interesting concept.
Idk about everyone else, but I wouldn't be too bothered if AWF wasn't the top fed on the board.
That said, I could understand why other admins and other feds wouldn't exactly like this idea. Being on top obviously means a lot for both prideful reasons and the potential popularity a fed could even get.
So it could be a problem when a fed tries to hoard the X*Crown for those exact reasons, ya know?
I do like the importance it insinuates about the Crown though.
Also, yeah, exactly- J-ROK is #2 and for a good reason, despite many members not really caring to rp often- It's a well-crafted place with well thought out storylines.
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Post by vastrix on Jun 7, 2020 15:50:46 GMT -5
I do kinda like this idea. Would just need to keep a note of where on the list that the X*Crown fed is in a nice spot as to remember where to slot them back once the X*Crown has switched fed hosts.
A fed should be able to hoard the title and keep it within their fed without offering to give other feds shots. At least up until the next Global show where they have to put it on the line against the other feds in contention.
I mean moving the fed would be nice. If moving the fed is out of the question, at least maybe a banner to put underneath the fed banner to show that "This fed has the X*Crown".
Maybe both moving and the Banner lol
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Post by MYÅŒJIN on Jun 8, 2020 21:52:57 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of hoarding it really. That only would bring people to bump heads over it, especially other feds.
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Post by anthonycaffrey on Jun 8, 2020 21:55:30 GMT -5
Interesting concept. Idk about everyone else, but I wouldn't be too bothered if AWF wasn't the top fed on the board. That said, I could understand why other admins and other feds wouldn't exactly like this idea. Being on top obviously means a lot for both prideful reasons and the potential popularity a fed could even get. So it could be a problem when a fed tries to hoard the X*Crown for those exact reasons, ya know? I do like the importance it insinuates about the Crown though. Also, yeah, exactly- J-ROK is #2 and for a good reason, despite many members not really caring to rp often- It's a well-crafted place with well thought out storylines. I agree with Vasty that feds already do hoard the Crown. SWAT opening their doors to DT and AWF opening their doort to all-comers in December (though if someone new won, we expected them to wrestle for us) are definitely not the norm. Also, AWF/J-ROK would just move down to #2 or #3, and even then I expect AWF to always be a competitor on the biggest shows, plus if you're comparing the first fed to the second fed you see, AWF is still always in that comparison, so not too bad for 'em either.
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Jun 8, 2020 22:10:33 GMT -5
I kinda like the idea. The whole concept of the crown is to be the crowning achievement. And when we brought it back the point was that it becomes the top title in the fed it's in and plays by that fed's rules so the fact that people are complaining about hoarding is odd. Also it gets globally defended 4 times a year and in CRAZY stips and restrictions (or lack thereof).
Really it makes sense to put eyes on the fed holding Mongo's crown jewel.
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Post by The King on Jun 9, 2020 12:04:47 GMT -5
I'm down for the idea.
EDIT: I reckon in the bio before everything else it should say the fed has the X*Crown.
For example, SWAT:
[Banner] HOME OF THE X*CROWN | Established early 2000's, our shows are held bi weekly with the matches posted every second day or so spread over the two weeks, with members posting segments as we proceed. The overall participation of the members with their segments on the shows determines the push.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Jun 9, 2020 14:46:48 GMT -5
I'm curious about this, though:
Who does this incentivize? The fed heads or the players?
I personally don't care too much about the order and I don't feel it encourages the users. I feel the order is kind of hyped up too much and I feel the crown is hyped up enough.
I remember when Mongo tried to punish the AWF by taking us off the top level once and I didn't even care lol
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Post by vastrix on Jun 9, 2020 17:58:41 GMT -5
Hmm it does seem like this is for the feds that desire top billing more than the individual champion.
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Post by Oh-Oh on Jun 9, 2020 19:12:56 GMT -5
Does the X*Crown Champion typically travel around to the different regions taking on their top talent? Or, do challengers come to the Champion's home promotion? If there is a post which details how the 'travelling' championships work, please point me in that direction. I'd like to get as informed as possible about these things. Thanks in advance
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Jun 9, 2020 19:29:28 GMT -5
Does the X*Crown Champion typically travel around to the different regions taking on their top talent? Or, do challengers come to the Champion's home promotion? If there is a post which details how the 'travelling' championships work, please point me in that direction. I'd like to get as informed as possible about these things. Thanks in advance So the X*Crown Champ generally defends in their home fed. They can go to other feds, I believe, but generally don't. The main opportunities for X*Crown Championships to go to different feds are during global events, which happen around every three months - Supremacy (January), XHF Rumble (April), Night of Champions (July) and End of Days (October). There are also some other mini-global events so to speak where it can happen. For example, we sometimes have Xtractions where two feds go to war where Survival Series or otherwise set up. In fact, Jack Diamond once won the X*Crown Championship from Rob Arnold in the spring of 2018 during what we call Xtraction: Blood Money.
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Post by Mongo the Destroyer on Jun 9, 2020 19:42:41 GMT -5
Does the X*Crown Champion typically travel around to the different regions taking on their top talent? Or, do challengers come to the Champion's home promotion? If there is a post which details how the 'travelling' championships work, please point me in that direction. I'd like to get as informed as possible about these things. Thanks in advance Kuroi covered it pretty well above. But I do have write up on global shows and the X*Crown here: xhf09.proboards.com/thread/2252/infomania-global-shows-crownThe XHF Tag Team Championships also are global but they operate a little differently. While the X*Crown gets tethered to the fed that contains the champ, the tag belts are pure global. That means that (assuming they can get booked) a registered tag team can have tag matches anywhere (usually vastrix ) handles that stuff as he's the head of that department. Once a team reaches 5 points (1 for a match 2 for a win) they can challenge the champions and we'll set that match up
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Post by Oh-Oh on Jun 9, 2020 20:03:26 GMT -5
Ok, I'm feeling much more informed now. Thank you Kuroi and Mongo for the responses!
It's clear you've all spent a great deal of time and effort putting these pieces together. I look forward to seeing how these new ideas within the thread take shape as well.
NoC is next. I saw a post in regards to that the other day with a June 28th deadline. I realize that's three weeks away, and I'm still getting started here. Just curious if there was an opportunity to work something out with you all to have someone on my roster be involved in the event. Even if it's me by default, there is no better way to get involved than participation in events like these.
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