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Post by Kris on Sept 7, 2023 12:56:15 GMT -5
Also, unrelated- is Kris still playing? I plan on doing a vote count two full days into the day phase. I will prod any players who haven't posted by then. I'm here. Things have been hectic with work, but I'm here. Anyway, my thoughts are as follows: - Hammer being a role cop =/= scum automatically to me. I've been the town role cop before, personally, so I hesitate to immediately go 'SCUM!' because of that. I do think that he's misplayed here and there with being too open with what he's learned early on, but what i find more strange is... - Steele being outed as a commuter and still being alive at this point. With the ability to really fuck with scum's plans, one would think that would get taken down quickly. - Though thinking further on it, I don't know how Hammer would know as much as he does about Steele's actions on night one if he was just a role cop. Something there doesn't sit right with me. Steele is less suspicious to me than Hammer at this point, TBH. - Actually, I think Steele is town that is being kept alive in order to be the outed role that should've been killed off before now so he can look suspicious. Be bait, in other words. - h2f and DT are both coming across as town to me. h2f has been asking questions that I would have asked, and DT's reasonings have been solid. - Rat is being--well, Rat. The man seems scummy even when he's town a lot of the time, but him piggybacking off of me pointing out that my role was passive to make a bomb/trigger-happy role feels off to me, but not as much as... - Mongo saying that voting Hammer solves nothing is categorically incorrect, and the defense in Hammer's name just doesn't make much sense to me. The center of what we've been chewing over all revolves around Hammer, if you read back. I know I just said that Hammer isn't automatically scum because of his role, but there's no denying that he knows more specific things than he should for simply being a role cop. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a role cop that also knew how the role was used be more than a little overpowered? VOTE: Hammer
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Sept 7, 2023 12:57:29 GMT -5
Wait rat crumbs paranoid gun owner then turns out to be a Day vig so clearly he wanted to not get role checked by Hammer last night.
Vote: Rat
That don't fly with me bucko.
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Post by Kris on Sept 7, 2023 12:57:42 GMT -5
...and I made that post without seeing what Rat just did. What the fuck indeed.
Well, that changes things drastically.
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Post by Kris on Sept 7, 2023 12:58:19 GMT -5
Unvote: Hammer
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Sept 7, 2023 12:59:44 GMT -5
I plan on doing a votebucks. two full days into the day phase. I will prod any players who haven't posted by then. I'm here. Things have been hectic with work, but I'm here. Anyway, my thoughts are as follows: - Hammer being a role cop =/= scum automatically to me. I've been the town role cop before, personally, so I hesitate to immediately go 'SCUM!' because of that. I do think that he's misplayed here and there with being too open with what he's learned early on, but what i find more strange is... - Steele being outed as a commuter and still being alive at this point. With the ability to really fuck with scum's plans, one would think that would get taken down quickly. - Though thinking further on it, I don't know how Hammer would know as much as he does about Steele's actions on night one if he was just a role cop. Something there doesn't sit right with me. Steele is less suspicious to me than Hammer at this point, TBH. - Actually, I think Steele is town that is being kept alive in order to be the outed role that should've been killed off before now so he can look suspicious. Be bait, in other words. - h2f and DT are both coming across as town to me. h2f has been asking questions that I would have asked, and DT's reasonings have been solid. - Rat is being--well, Rat. The man seems scummy even when he's town a lot of the time, but him piggybacking off of me pointing out that my role was passive to make a bomb/trigger-happy role feels off to me, but not as much as... - Mongo saying that voting Hammer solves nothing is categorically incorrect, and the defense in Hammer's name just doesn't make much sense to me. The center of what we've been chewing over all revolves around Hammer, if you read back. I know I just said that Hammer isn't automatically scum because of his role, but there's no denying that he knows more specific things than he should for simply being a role cop. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a role cop that also knew how the role was used be more than a little overpowered? VOTE: Hammer
F.O.S.: MongoSo Hammer caught Steele with role cop when Steele didn't commute. I'm assuming he's still alive since he's a commuter abs scum don't wanna risk missing. So it's entirely possible he's just a role cop. Rat shooting Mongo in broad daylight? Well there you have it |
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Post by Kris on Sept 7, 2023 13:00:46 GMT -5
Wait. A commuter and a redirector in the same game?
Why do I have the feeling that Steele and Hammer are the scum playing the rest of us?
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Sept 7, 2023 13:04:41 GMT -5
Wait. A commuter and a redirector in the same game? Why do I have the feeling that Steele and Hammer are the scum playing the rest of us? ... huh ... I mean it's possible? There haven't been any missed kills of we assume you are being honest about being shot, which at this point I have little reason to doubt. Mongo's power adds doubt if he managed to redirect a kill, to his words imply he was trying to redirect a kill and never did ... With a role cop being a naturally scummy role and Steele being the confirmation... point blank the only way we can prove he's town role cop now is either vote him or have him reveal all his results... but if he's a TOWN role cop that would be disastrous if he reveals a power role that we need I'll leave my vote on the guy with the gun for now. |
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Post by hardcorehammer24 on Sept 7, 2023 13:10:15 GMT -5
UNVOTE: RAT
Vig is usually town especially if it is during the day. The a was a shitty thing to do to poor Mongo, but damn Rat may actually be BOTW.
Time to talk Rat…
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Post by RattyMcDaddy on Sept 7, 2023 13:10:52 GMT -5
Wait. A commuter and a redirector in the same game? Why do I have the feeling that Steele and Hammer are the scum playing the rest of us? I thought it was Mongo and Hammer or Steele playing us. Mongo seemed like the natural head of the beast to remove. |
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Post by hardcorehammer24 on Sept 7, 2023 13:13:22 GMT -5
And while we are it explain why you are keen on taking out Rat given this horribly reckless act rather than it simply being Rat thought Mongo was scum.
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Post by Kris on Sept 7, 2023 13:15:51 GMT -5
... huh ... I mean it's possible? There haven't been any missed kills of we assume you are being honest about being shot, which at this point I have little reason to doubt. Mongo's power adds doubt if he managed to redirect a kill, to his words imply he was trying to redirect a kill and never did ... With a role cop being a naturally scummy role and Steele being the confirmation... point blank the only way we can prove he's town role cop now is either vote him or have him reveal all his results... but if he's a TOWN role cop that would be disastrous if he reveals a power role that we need I'll leave my vote on the guy with the gun for now. Yeah, this is a thread to pursue for sure, but I have to agree with you on the day vig/paranoid gun owner claims not adding up. [b[Vote: Rat[/b] |
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Post by Dave D-Flipz on Sept 7, 2023 13:16:15 GMT -5
I was ready to vote him with you and Mongo before he just up and shot Mongo without reason. I asked him to explain before I voted and he shot. Are you saying you're willing to throw shade at a commuter but don't think a guy with a gun is a threat?
And he could be scum or a killing third party. The fact that he all but claimed PGO to stop you checking him then turns around and had a day kill is INCREDIBLY sus
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Post by Kris on Sept 7, 2023 13:16:24 GMT -5
Vote: Rat
Sorry, coding flub.
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Post by hardcorehammer24 on Sept 7, 2023 13:16:35 GMT -5
Whoever is scum in this game is far more experienced than I am. The reason you all are still pointing fingers…because the scum know I am newer and tend to make mistakes and devoted their kills to those who have been talking people out of voting for me.
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Post by hardcorehammer24 on Sept 7, 2023 13:18:36 GMT -5
I am not against voting Rat again though, just saying we should talk through it first.
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