Hmmm..

[MYŌJIN]

So I have finally decided to make an alternate character to Draven. But the problem is is like...

I want to play Myojin differently than Draven, but when I look at them- They both have some similarities. Especially in the 'pretty boy with eyeliner' part, but that's besides the point.

How do I keep Myojin from just being Japanese Draven. How should I keep their personalities different? How can I make them feel like different people?

It's a question that's been lingering in my head for a bit.

[Mongo the Destroyer]

I had been under the assumption that Myojin was going to be very flamboyant, like Elton John only a wrestler.

I would say that one of the big things you can use to differentiate is how much self-awareness they have. Like Draven is very self-conscious about how he acts (because he's trying to not be a vampire, lol) and so he's aware of everything that connects to him.

Myojin doesn't need to have that aspect. If you notice, I play Lord Dominicus with absolutely no self-awareness. He could lose every match and not even know it by the way he talks. Myojin could be really so in his head that his perception of the world is different than what is actually there. It both shields him from losses and makes it really easy to do anything you want with him since he never needs to get mopey or hit a downside (unless he loses his glam and learns the value of friendship before immediately forgetting it a few matches later).

An example that's not me is Lexxi Starr from aGw. He made a pretty strong impression with his promo at CTA: xhf09.proboards.com/thread/14787/saving-sexiest-last-call-arms

You can see that as a heel, nobody really wants to even get near this guy but he's pretty sure he's the biggest face in the room and doesn't even really acknowledge anything that doesn't go with his self-concept. That's something you can't really do with Draven- but Myojin? Oh absolutely. Make him the cock of the walk, the best party guy, and just over the top.

The only difference between doing it heel and face (since Myojin is pure face) is that the people he interacts with generally sell his antics the same as he thinks they would (and annoys heelish characters). Make him larger than life.

I'd almost argue that even though their both faces, Draven and Myojin could easily have pretty opposite personalities- Myojin sickeningly sweet and Draven pretty emo vampire

[SWAT Team]

sometimes when you read it thru in your head, or think it thru in advance, it comes across in your own words, sometimes, when others know it is you, they hear it in your words also, 'knowing its the same handler'

as the other characters develop, they will grow into themselves

maybe one is face, one is heel, till you establish the differences in them

[MYŌJIN]

Myojin is pretty flamboyant, and I do think he'll be a much more... upbeat character. Though what you suggested Mongo could really help. And yeah, my writing is always going to have my own trademark personal flair to it- I just don't want to feel like I'm playing the same character again and don't want others to see it as that way.

I was considering going the like.. obnoxiously nice babyface route as Mongo suggested. But I think I want Myojin to have some arrogance to him. Like Velveteen Dream for example- Who knows? I'll see when I eventually start writing as him in-character.

[MYŌJIN]

The lack of self-awareness could be fun. Considering Draven is all TOO self aware.

I think Myojin is gonna be a bubbly, larger than life guy which humorously contradicts with him being a ex-MMA fighter and his moveset of brutal submissions and hard hitting strikes. But also have a more arrogant, serious, smart mouthed side to him as well- Again like Dream lol. Kind and usually melodramatic to most, but underneath all that is a pretty serious and determined fighter who takes things maybe a bit more seriously than he seems to let on.

The problem with making him humorously oblivious to himself is that lacks the ability of giving character development I feel.

[Mongo the Destroyer]

Therapist: Anime isn't real, you don't need to worry about it

Anime:

But for real yeah, I like the sound of your plan.  The super mma guy who is hilariously flamboyant is so anime and you can't even deny it.  Like it's not a main character, but one of the "bosses" the main guy runs into on his adventure

[ForeverKuroi]

I had these concerns about Kuroi and Storm. They're both heelish. They both even have some similarities in their goals. The way I have them different is focus on their motivations.

Kuroi wants a warrior race, everyone to be strong just like him. He thinks he's helping everyone see their true potential.
Storm - or at least heel Storm wants everyone to feel the pain he felt, because he thinks he's helping them see the truth.

[Mongo the Destroyer]

Jun 5, 2020 13:41:11 GMT -5 ForeverKuroi said:

I had these concerns about Kuroi and Storm. They're both heelish. They both even have some similarities in their goals. The way I have them different is focus on their motivations.

Kuroi wants a warrior race, everyone to be strong just like him. He thinks he's helping everyone see their true potential.
Storm - or at least heel Storm wants everyone to feel the pain he felt, because he thinks he's helping them see the truth.

Funny you mention it Kuroi. When I was reviewing Rumble rps you could defo here Storm hitting Kuroi points or sometimes your own voice. I think just the sheer amount you were trying to produce was causing overlap. Like Storm's nihilistic rhetoric was sometimes getting into the "strong is better than weak" stuff that Kuroi usually preaches

[ForeverKuroi]

Jun 5, 2020 18:14:42 GMT -5 Mongo the Destroyer said:

Jun 5, 2020 13:41:11 GMT -5 ForeverKuroi said:

I had these concerns about Kuroi and Storm. They're both heelish. They both even have some similarities in their goals. The way I have them different is focus on their motivations.

Kuroi wants a warrior race, everyone to be strong just like him. He thinks he's helping everyone see their true potential.
Storm - or at least heel Storm wants everyone to feel the pain he felt, because he thinks he's helping them see the truth.

Funny you mention it Kuroi. When I was reviewing Rumble rps you could defo here Storm hitting Kuroi points or sometimes your own voice. I think just the sheer amount you were trying to produce was causing overlap. Like Storm's nihilistic rhetoric was sometimes getting into the "strong is better than weak" stuff that Kuroi usually preaches

They definitely have overlap. I'm almost hypothesizing that most characters that people have when they have two or more mains, have some significant overlap at least in some areas.

I feel it'd be a mistake to try to work super hard to make them completely different because I believe forcing character development or forcing RPs leads to awkward artificial content, but those are my thoughts. Similarly, I think you can find two different OOC people in the network and find some similar personality types. For example, I get that a lot with Draven and Reck. Obviously I know they're two different people but they're different enough to have major differences, but similar enough where they can sometimes sound that they have the same voice.

(If I offended you, Draven, I apologize.)

[ForeverKuroi]

Jun 5, 2020 18:14:42 GMT -5 Mongo the Destroyer said:

Jun 5, 2020 13:41:11 GMT -5 ForeverKuroi said:

I had these concerns about Kuroi and Storm. They're both heelish. They both even have some similarities in their goals. The way I have them different is focus on their motivations.

Kuroi wants a warrior race, everyone to be strong just like him. He thinks he's helping everyone see their true potential.
Storm - or at least heel Storm wants everyone to feel the pain he felt, because he thinks he's helping them see the truth.

Funny you mention it Kuroi. When I was reviewing Rumble rps you could defo here Storm hitting Kuroi points or sometimes your own voice. I think just the sheer amount you were trying to produce was causing overlap. Like Storm's nihilistic rhetoric was sometimes getting into the "strong is better than weak" stuff that Kuroi usually preaches

Although to the exact argument you're using, I will say I disagree with it.  Storm said plenty of times that he's perfectly accepting the possibility he'd lose because he went through the whole probability and statistics of everything. Kuroi would more likely believe he can't lose, because he's stronger, has a connection through Legion, etc. etc.

But the voice, which is what I used in the last post, is often similar, yeah.

[Mongo the Destroyer]

Yeah, I get they're different guys. But like suddenly Storm was breaking down a philosophical concept and I didn't know if I was reading Kuroi or Erez or Storm, lol. But you are right, there's gonna be overlap regardless and that could happen even with different characters from different handlers. It's hard differentiating guys. One of the reasons I stopped using Mongo is that I don't really know how to play him anymore- even keeping Nelly and Randy separate is a challenge so I try to lean more into one at any given time.

But, back on point with the Draven/Myojin- playing LD is hella easy and the stark difference between him and my other guys makes it easy to create that disconnect.

[Blackstone]

This is why I write story driven stuff. Each character I've used has different supporting characters. How would the new guy react to something the old one came across? Start there. Vase in point. I had an old character that was very serious...almost to the point of being boring as he was very cocky, and confident and took everything seriously. I created another character that was basically just a drunk hillbilly who had fun and took nothing seriously. The dynamic between the two showed the differences in character. You also have to get into the mind of those characters. Can you relate to either one?