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Post by Dustisinbedstill on Sept 29, 2019 9:15:10 GMT -5
This is what you've wanted for a while now. To talk and get things worked on. It's not a discussion with anyone in particular so I suggest you use the chance rather than throw it away. I think people forget that I have feelings. I got ass blasted last night, thrown in jail for little to no reason by an admin staff protecting one of their own, and then this morning after being told repeatedly it would be a until morning thing, am still in jail, which seems incredibly spiteful. I’m a young guy. I’m 23. I’m not going to just take this. I don’t know why the expectation is that I’m going to come to the table and fold my hands and just take more abuse. I am trying my damndest but no, I won’t just take it. When I’m let out I will have more to say. Was about to let you out but then I came here and see you're still upset and you're still being disrespectful. You're 23? We have teenagers with better anger management control. I'll do it later this morning but the minute I see you popping off on people, I'm going to take it seriously. You were already a repeat offender and have been talked to leading up to this, and we're getting tired of you playing the victim card and calling it being a man when you start lashing out at people. Some of your own members have even spoke out about your attitude leading up to this. Mongo's been gracious enough to you as it is and he's even made this thread against his own advisement at first (and I hope he realizes the good from this because thoughtful responses are actually coming from this as opposed to more yelling in a chat). Take a few to reflect on yourself, man. I'm not trying to punish you, I'm trying to help, because this attitude you keep carrying is only going to push you further and further away from everyone else. There's still time to right the ship but you're unnecessarily making the waves bigger and bigger for yourself. As for Rob, we demoted him and muted him for the time being, but he has taken upon himself to remove himself entirely from discord. If we were truly biased do you think any of that would've happened?
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Post by anthonycaffrey on Sept 29, 2019 9:26:54 GMT -5
Again.
This is the nature of my complaint.
I get upset that things are against me.
People then pretend that things don’t happen against me.
I say that things are wrong, and I get crapped on for it.
I am only discontent this morning because I was told that if I followed the ruling and went away, I would be let out of the jail. Now you are hanging it over my head for I don’t know what reason, and it is hard to be on good behavior when I make a move in good faith only to have the goalposts pushed back another five yards, seemingly because I just irritate people.
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Post by Dustisinbedstill on Sept 29, 2019 9:34:48 GMT -5
Again. This is the nature of my complaint. I get upset that things are against me. People then pretend that things don’t happen against me. I say that things are wrong, and I get crapped on for it. I am only discontent this morning because I was told that if I followed the ruling and went away, I would be let out of the jail. Now you are hanging it over my head for I don’t know what reason, and it is hard to be on good behavior when I make a move in good faith only to have the goalposts pushed back another five yards, seemingly because I just irritate people. What's the move in good faith you made, exactly?
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Post by anthonycaffrey on Sept 29, 2019 9:45:23 GMT -5
Going away and chilling out.
I think my response to Rob Arnold’s lack of apology after the mean things he’s said is about the fairest I can be. I would appreciate it if I was not told again to not be upset by how I’m being treated, that clearly isn’t going to be a thing and the treatment is upsetting.
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Post by Mav. on Sept 29, 2019 9:49:07 GMT -5
Again. This is the nature of my complaint. I get upset that things are against me. People then pretend that things don’t happen against me. I say that things are wrong, and I get crapped on for it. I am only discontent this morning because I was told that if I followed the ruling and went away, I would be let out of the jail. Now you are hanging it over my head for I don’t know what reason, and it is hard to be on good behavior when I make a move in good faith only to have the goalposts pushed back another five yards, seemingly because I just irritate people. You make people go against you, you ask for the abuse you get and you don't seem to take it but you're willing to give it to anyone you wish to give it to. examples to these are myself last night when you told me to shut the fuck up for defending Swann because he made a joke and i kept saying "maaaaate", when i gave you a suggestion to the political debate in the general chat and which you replied with: Now at that point, I could have called you some name like a whiny little bitch or a self-righteous asshole which i have in the past, but i didn't yet you still tried to slam hate towards me. I asked of you privately in DMs to tone things down because you're the reason all of this toxicity is around the discord and what did you say to me? You think everything is about you, lad, and you need to fucking cop on. I'll quote Dust and say "You're 23? We have teenagers with better anger management control." which he's right because fucking Draven has better anger management than you, I have better anger management than you, Swann has better anger management than you but here you are blowing a fucking gasket every chance you get when you don't like what you see. If you're 23, then act like you are because I swear I'm talking to a 12 year old sometimes with your childish behavior.
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Post by Robbie A on Sept 29, 2019 9:49:28 GMT -5
Going away and chilling out. I think my response to Rob Arnold’s lack of apology after the mean things he’s said is about the fairest I can be. I would appreciate it if I was not told again to not be upset by how I’m being treated, that clearly isn’t going to be a thing and the treatment is upsetting. And my apology from you for the behaviour I talked about? Throwing things at me and the other admins because you didn’t like it? Two. Way. Street.
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Post by anthonycaffrey on Sept 29, 2019 9:51:34 GMT -5
Now this has devolved into namecalling.
A+ job, guys.
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Post by anthonycaffrey on Sept 29, 2019 9:57:07 GMT -5
Really, really dig being told my anger management is poor by being screamed at, cursed at, and insulted repeatedly.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Sept 29, 2019 10:04:03 GMT -5
Caff, if Rob apologizes for his actions, will you?
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Post by anthonycaffrey on Sept 29, 2019 10:05:35 GMT -5
Caff, if Rob apologizes for his actions, will you? Yes, but if he doesn’t mean it, I’m not taking it.
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Post by Robbie A on Sept 29, 2019 10:18:24 GMT -5
Caff, if Rob apologizes for his actions, will you? Yes, but if he doesn’t mean it, I’m not taking it. I think it’s important you understand what I’m apologetic for, and what I would expect back from you, as I mentioned this is a two way street. For what it’s worth I cannot retract what I put earlier about you. I’m genuinely troubled about how you behave. However my behaviour to drunkenly throw that at you wasn’t fair or appropriate. I apologise for that. However why was I upset? Because you’ve been rattling my cage about being an admin, you were throwing shade in the AWF channel and just kept at it really. As I said the feeling I’ve got from you lately is I could say I like a blue shirt and you’d hammer me for it not being red because that is what you would want. That’s where I’m upset and something I need you to recognise. Kuroi I owe you an apology as well, again I’d passed the point of no return and was just completely emotionally done. That wasn’t fair to whale on you either. Theres a separate conversation I want to have with you at some point though.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Sept 29, 2019 10:19:31 GMT -5
Rob, can you please sincerely apologize for what you said to Caff, and he will return the favor?
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Sept 29, 2019 10:22:17 GMT -5
Rob, I'd be more than happy to have a conversation with you. Probably after the weekend is done. But i know you're upset and i want a happy outcome.
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Post by Mav. on Sept 29, 2019 10:28:44 GMT -5
I’m just going to say this, Kuroi, this ain’t be fixed with a simple apology.
If you want my suggestion, delete the “official” Discord because it’s not worth even creating in the first place and the XHF doesn’t need two discords, it’s going to separate the place and the community around it.
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Post by ForeverKuroi on Sept 29, 2019 10:33:05 GMT -5
An apology won't fix everything, no.
But it's a start.
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